2013 British and Irish Lions

[Ospreylian]

Sweet mother of **** you're being a twat here.

Healy stamped on his ankle yes , worst case scenario it's a broken ankle , dangerous play cynical and deserving of punishment nor arguments here.


Warburton picked up player flips him onto neck/ upper back - worst case scenario = death. Yes there was malice in the hit yes there was intent. You don't accidentally let go of the man and fire him head first into the ground after lifting the ball carrier.

Yeah it was a bit foolish...

So you're actually going to call me a twat on a forum debate that was pretty civil to begin with? You're mature aren't you. The real posters on TRF don't have to resort to such petty melodrama.

The only reason it wasn't a broken ankle is because Cole is built like a BSH, and he is big boned. If it had been Flood it far more likely would have been a broken ankle, in which case most people would be viewing this entirely differently. Also, Warburton didn't "fire him head first into the ground". He took him up into the air past his shoulders, realised that was dangerous, got caught between two minds and stupidly dropped him. It was by no means a malicious offence though. I don't have a problem with players committing those sort of non-malicious offences once and then learning from their mistake, like Warburton has. What I DO have a massive problem with is players who obviously act in a way that is dangerous to others ON PURPOSE (some people don't seem to read that part in my comments), such as needless stamping, eye gouging, kicking etc. I don't think it is at all unrealistic to expect players to play inside the rules.

And in response to this comment from donmcdazzle:

"Sorry for picking on you mate but I just love this comment people always use. Pretty much everything in a rugby match is assault if done on the street. Imagine tackling some random person on the footpath, or running into someone and bumping them off.. You'd be in huge trouble."

Firstly I obviously have no qualms with people disagreeing with me, as long as they don't have the idiocy to call me a "twat". Of course everything in rugby is not assault, that is not at all what I mean. Do the IRB rules and regulations allow for dangerous play such as stamping with force or eye gouging? No, of course not. Tackling is something that is part of the game and is expected of all players. It is something all players know is going to happen to them and they agree that they will allow this to happen to them when they sign up to do rugby at the age of 8 or 9. The physicality is not at all what I have a problem with. It seems like lots of people have completely missed the point. Just because you're allowed to tackle, does not make it acceptable to stamp. I don't understand what is so hard to get?

 

[j'nuh]

In terms of Healy - I stopped liking him when he punched Richie McCaw's head while McCaw was on the ground last June. The incident went totally unnoticed by everyone it seemed - but it was as bad as anything I saw last year.

Can watch this here. Or skip to 3 min 12 sec here:

 

[Draggs]

See, I started to like Healy a while back.
It was around the time Adam thunderbummed him in NZ.
There's a gif of it, but I can't bother to look for it now. It will show up soon.

 

[big ginger 8]

Ah a good old fashioned witch hunt I'll go get my stake.

 

[munstermuffin]

And Gatland was watching, apparently

Gatland wasn't in UL today but 2 well know Lions affiliates were.

 

[psychic duck]

See, I started to like Healy a while back.
It was around the time Adam thunderbummed him in NZ.
There's a gif of it, but I can't bother to look for it now. It will show up soon.

This?

 

[big ginger 8]

Yeah where Jones illegally "binded" on the arm......cheater.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Yeah where Jones illegally "binded" on the arm......cheater.

I agree with you there and i generally think Adam Jones constantly binds on the arm. My Lions front row would be Healy and Cole, best two props on form at the moment....although that will probably change

 

[Peat]

Gatland wasn't in UL today but 2 well know Lions affiliates were.

Would the Planet Rugby forum lie to me?

 

[Aedaphon]

I agree with you there and i generally think Adam Jones constantly binds on the arm. My Lions front row would be Healy and Cole, best two props on form at the moment....although that will probably change

I'd seriously consider Sheridan for my Lions front row (not necessarily a starter). I feel the competition for loosehead is a little more open than Tighthead at the moment (with Cole and Jones being the nailed down contenders).

At loosehead I feel Healy is almost guaranteed a spot but Jenkins hasn't quite been on the form to guarantee a place, leaving James and others with a look in. It's a shame Corbisiero has been out all 6 Nations, I think he might have had a fair shot.

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

I'd seriously consider Sheridan for my Lions front row (not necessarily a starter). I feel the competition for loosehead is a little more open than Tighthead at the moment (with Cole and Jones being the nailed down contenders).

At loosehead I feel Healy is almost guaranteed a spot but Jenkins hasn't quite been on the form to guarantee a place, leaving James and others with a look in. It's a shame Corbisiero has been out all 6 Nations, I think he might have had a fair shot.

I juast havent seen Sheridan play, i didn't really know what kind of form he has at the moment. In a way i was kind of not expecting any French based players on the Lions tour. I just got the impression that they would be too late to gel with the squad, we will see.

He is a question, can anyone do a good lions 15 from just french based players?

 

[munstermuffin]

Would the Planet Rugby forum lie to me?

Well I saw a man they call Geechs and a Mr Davies. Maybe Gatland was among the students

 

[nickdnz]

He is a question, can anyone do a good lions 15 from just french based players?

1. Gethin Jenkins
2. ?
3. Andrew Sheridan
4. Simon Shaw
5. Nathan Hynes
6. Alasdair Strokosch
7. Steffon Armitage
8. Magnus Lund
9. Mike Phillips
10. Johnny Wilkinson
11. Paul Sackey
12. James Hook
13. Shontayne Hape
14. Delon Armitage
15. Lee Byrne

That's my best shot - and some of them are hardly current Lions material (Magnus Lund hasn't played international rugby for half a decade, haha - Andrew Sheridan not a TH prop...).

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Ben Broster could go at 3, though I think I'd rather Sheridan :lol:

 

[munstermuffin]

Denis Fogarty for hooker

 

[dullonien]

Another 3 possibles: Bennett at hooker, Charteris in the second row and Brew on the wing.

 

[j'nuh]

Luke Narraway for 8? Not sure how he's getting on though...

Marcel Garvey as a winger?

Hape out, Hook to 13, Barkley in at 12?

 

[Draggs]

Still gave Healy a faceful of his own ********.

 

[ZeFrenchy]

Beattie at 8 for sure.

 

[Peat]

Beattie at 8 for sure.

Beat me to it.

That team also needs more Iain Balshaw.