[2017 Six Nations] - England

[johnmac99]

As someone who hasn't watched much of him, do people think that Underhill is ready for Test Match Rugby right now or does he still need time?

Make your own mind up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCh7kQgYp1I

 

[Maverick1987]

Hey guys just wondering does someone have to play rugby union in a particular country to qualify on residency . Thinking about Denny Solomona he's played Rugby League for a bit over here

 

[ratsapprentice]

Different sports - doesn't matter. Te'o played for Samoa in RL.

**** capping Solomona though.

 

[Peat]

Idle and completely OT question for the league guys here - how many guys in the England RL team could/would make the RU team if they converted and genuinely put their back into it for a good three year period or so?

 

[Maverick1987]

Different sports - doesn't matter. Te'o played for Samoa in RL.

**** capping Solomona though.

Yeh I'm not saying cap him I just wondered if the residency started when you move to the country or when you started playing union in that country

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Make your own mind up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCh7kQgYp1I

One break does not a player make

 

[ratsapprentice]

One break does not a player make

He's very good. No obvious weakness to his game, I mean that... genuinely can't see any area which he isn't at least decent, and is well above average in most.

Great carrier in the tight and loose, good footballer, excellent chop tackler, decent over the ball, great workrate, good leader, not too tall/short.
Generally manages to inject himself into the game a couple of times per match to do something like make a big carry or decisive tackle.

 

[Which Tyler]

Yeh I'm not saying cap him I just wondered if the residency started when you move to the country or when you started playing union in that country

36 months permanent residence. So spending even a full calendar month back in NZ would reset the 3 years, but if he hasn't done that, then he must be nearly qualified. Your occupation is entirely separate from your status as resident.

 

[TommiG88]

36 months permanent residence. So spending even a full calendar month back in NZ would reset the 3 years, but if he hasn't done that, then he must be nearly qualified. Your occupation is entirely separate from your status as resident.

Supposedly qualifies some time in the summer.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I heard he qualifies in 3 weeks
Get him in for the Ireland game!

I'd rather he played for Samoa, tbf. Hopefully they offer him a shot over the summer and that ends any speculation.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Idle and completely OT question for the league guys here - how many guys in the England RL team could/would make the RU team if they converted and genuinely put their back into it for a good three year period or so?

A handful - although it's very difficult to say because of the difficulty in translating positions.

George and Sam Burgess cool, James Graham would probably make decent back rowers with a chance of being in/around the squad.

George Williams might mike a decent scrum half, Liam Farrell (Eoin's cousin) would make a good player, not sure where he'd be a 12 or a 6 though (sound familiar?).

Kallum Watkins would probably have the best chance of success - he's very similar to JJ.

Their wingers might do alright, they might not.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Forwards (16)
Jack Clifford (Harlequins), Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers), Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby), Jamie George (Saracens), Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints), James Haskell (Wasps), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Mike Williams (Leicester Tigers), Tom Wood (Northampton Saints).
Backs (12)
Mike Brown (Harlequins), Danny Care (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Bath Rugby), Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby), Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors), Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers).

Tony, Mako and The Rhodesian are in.

 

[Goodey]

Harrison back as well which is a little disappointing.

That being a big enough list to not really mean much for selection news is even more disappointing.

Source for it?

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Harrison back as well which is a little disappointing.

That being a big enough list to not really mean much for selection news is even more disappointing.

Source for it?

http://www.englandrugby.com/news/prop-vunipola-returns-england-camp/

 

[Goodey]

Cheers.

Vunipola jr also joining the training camp for some form of assessment this week, showing that the practice of gluing rugby players back together with witchcraft is going from strength to strength

 

[Mumbles119]

Just got home after spending the day at Pennyhill Park training with a few of the England Squad. This was courtesy of Natwest Rugby Force and a couple of our club guys putting us forward to be selected.

Really enjoyed the day, although too much running for my taste!

The players that were working with us were Kyle Sinckler, Nathan Hughes and Henry Slade. Plus two other Natwest rugby coaches who played the host role.

What I was most impressed with, was the extra effort all three of them kept adding in. They didn't just play the part that I assume they are contracted to. But each one of them took extra time, actively added extra little sessions, extended time after for one on one coaching for specialist roles, and were starting the silly banter and just very genuine.

Kyle in particular was excellent, he led our forwards training, and was very clear and assured, whilst Nathan sort of played the sidekick.

Kyle also ran the tour of the Pennyhill facilities, which as you could imagine with RFU resources, are excellent. Half an indoor pitch with above cameras and wall screens for immediate analysis of jump heights, scrums etc...

It was interesting to hear that Eddie ran a session, similar to Lancasters, playing very high volume crowd and music. But did this indoors this time, and added red smoke bombs!

We also walked past the office rooms, and Kyle asked us to be quiet as Eddie was in there, and we didn't want to get into trouble.

We also met briefly with a few other players in the gym area; Maro, Lawes, and Mako. Good to see Mako back!

Sorry if this is a bit of a ramble, just wanted to share in case anyone found it a little interesting.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Sounds cracking!
I did something similar in the run up to the 2011 RWC, trained with Manu, Corbs and Easter, then saw Cueto Flutey and Flood doing a photo shoot for the off field kit after.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Kyle always comes across as a very cool guy and good ambassador for the sport, does/did some coaching (with Guildford?).

 

[johnmac99]

Just got home after spending the day at Pennyhill Park training with a few of the England Squad. This was courtesy of Natwest Rugby Force and a couple of our club guys putting us forward to be selected.

Really enjoyed the day, although too much running for my taste!

The players that were working with us were Kyle Sinckler, Nathan Hughes and Henry Slade. Plus two other Natwest rugby coaches who played the host role.

What I was most impressed with, was the extra effort all three of them kept adding in. They didn't just play the part that I assume they are contracted to. But each one of them took extra time, actively added extra little sessions, extended time after for one on one coaching for specialist roles, and were starting the silly banter and just very genuine.

Kyle in particular was excellent, he led our forwards training, and was very clear and assured, whilst Nathan sort of played the sidekick.

Kyle also ran the tour of the Pennyhill facilities, which as you could imagine with RFU resources, are excellent. Half an indoor pitch with above cameras and wall screens for immediate analysis of jump heights, scrums etc...

It was interesting to hear that Eddie ran a session, similar to Lancasters, playing very high volume crowd and music. But did this indoors this time, and added red smoke bombs!

We also walked past the office rooms, and Kyle asked us to be quiet as Eddie was in there, and we didn't want to get into trouble.

We also met briefly with a few other players in the gym area; Maro, Lawes, and Mako. Good to see Mako back!

Sorry if this is a bit of a ramble, just wanted to share in case anyone found it a little interesting.

Cheers mate, found that very interesting. How huge are these guys, though?

 

[RedruthRFC]

Kyle always comes across as a very cool guy and good ambassador for the sport, does/did some coaching (with Guildford?).

Still is according to their website, along with Dave Ward, who got involved shortly after signing from Pirates. Quins seem to have good community links, off the top of my head, Evans and Easter did similar, I'm sure there's more.