[2015 RWC] Warm Up Match: France vs England (22/08/2015)

[The Jones Boy]

Wasn't on about braid for England but braid in general.

It does seem like every season you designate a sale flanker to be your new centrefold

There's only one centrefold in rugby and it's DC.
It's shameful.

 

[goodNumber10]

There's only one centrefold in rugby and it's DC.
It's shameful.

Dane Coles?

 

[The Jones Boy]

A lot of moaning about the players tonight but what is the feeling about Lancaster's approach and how did tonight help him sort the wheat from the chaff?

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

They weren't dominated in the last ten when the French altered their team and took their foot off the gas...

But he came on at 53 minutes in... And looked good for all of it...

 

[goodNumber10]

A lot of moaning about the players tonight but what is the feeling about Lancaster's approach and how did tonight help him sort the wheat from the chaff?

lot of people have a bee in their bonnett about Lancaster anyway, but i think a lot of today was down to inability to execute rather than game plan.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Dane Coles?

More like Dan Cole

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

A lot of moaning about the players tonight but what is the feeling about Lancaster's approach and how did tonight help him sort the wheat from the chaff?

I think many will agree I am one of his biggest supporters on here.

But I think he has to go (barring a England team in the semi final +)

Again I am fairly fair on him in my views so for me to say this shows how bad he has been.

 

[The Jones Boy]

Maybe the mood will lighten with a victory over the Irish.

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

Maybe the mood will lighten with a victory over the Irish.

Ain't never hoppnin. Maybe at Twickers.

Think all we can do after this warm up is rinse and repeat. Minor changes, e.g Wood/Binny (Morgan at 8) for Hask (onto the bench), take 36 away and get him put down, play Cips at 10 for once... Even off the bench.

Edit: 200 you mofos.

 

[Wendigo7]

Maybe the mood will lighten with a victory over the Irish.

Right now, even in form, that's very hard to envisage even with a full strength fully fit side.

 

[Maverick1987]

Maybe the mood will lighten with a victory over the Irish.

There's no mood to lighten . We lost against a brilliant French performance in Paris . The forwards looked rusty (haven't played since May) we won't face a pack anywhere near as powerful as the French in our group . However if I was a kiwi I'd be praying the French win their group because they love ****ing your party up you were beaten easily in the forwards in Sydney by the Australians and France's pack are twice as powerful as has been proven in the last 2 games

 

[kesh]

Rusty front eight.

And Cips > Goode,

 

[arry nordy key]

Taking a rose-tinted look at tonight's game.

We scored 2 tries and conceded 1. 90% of the time, the team scoring more tries wins. Ill discipline is far easier to fix than a weak defence or impotent attack.

Set plays are being repeated. I think we have used 3/4 different Lineout calls across both games, surely this won't be the case at RWC and first phase ball will be secured more reliably. Backs moves are also being repeated, I think, to the same effect.

All RWC games are played at home, where, amongst other things, we can trust the pitch to hold up.

We finished both halves by far the stronger team and looked more dangerous the more phases we built. Using French as comparators we are aerobically fitter.

In RWC we won't be bringing twelvetrees off the bench... (sorry, cheap shot)

I know I'm ignoring a lot and bending truths here. Point is, I don't think that this scoreline means we won't do well at the world cup. Watching that game I'd be more worried as an Irish fan than an English one.

I can see England V France in semi final and I'd back us to win.

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

Off the back of that, I'd rather have Cipriani as the second 15 than Goode. My only worry is that he hasn't really been tested there in defence or under a lot of high ball so far.

 

[martinspoonboy1]

Taking a rose-tinted look at tonight's game.

We scored 2 tries and conceded 1. 90% of the time, the team scoring more tries wins. Ill discipline is far easier to fix than a weak defence or impotent attack.

Set plays are being repeated. I think we have used 3/4 different Lineout calls across both games, surely this won't be the case at RWC and first phase ball will be secured more reliably. Backs moves are also being repeated, I think, to the same effect.

All RWC games are played at home, where, amongst other things, we can trust the pitch to hold up.

We finished both halves by far the stronger team and looked more dangerous the more phases we built. Using French as comparators we are aerobically fitter.

In RWC we won't be bringing twelvetrees off the bench... (sorry, cheap shot)

I know I'm ignoring a lot and bending truths here. Point is, I don't think that this scoreline means we won't do well at the world cup. Watching that game I'd be more worried as an Irish fan than an English one.

I can see England V France in semi final and I'd back us to win.

Lulling France into a false sense of security right?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

In RWC we won't be bringing twelvetrees off the bench... (sorry, cheap shot)

I wouldn't be so sure, Lancaster loves him on the bench.

 

[kesh]

Off the back of that, I'd rather have Cipriani as the second 15 than Goode. My only worry is that he hasn't really been tested there in defence or under a lot of high ball so far.

Going off the 6n Ireland game and the fact that he's better then Goode in every other facet of the game, its a no brainer.

 

[martinspoonboy1]

Going off the 6n Ireland game and the fact that he's better then Goode in every other facet of the game, its a no brainer.

Unfortunately, Lancaster will pick Goode.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Unfortunately, Lancaster will pick Goode.

Unfortunately agree with that.

I think Lancaster had his team set out pre-warm up games (potentially pre-training camps), and I'd be amazed if it's changed since then (bar injury to Corbs and/or Brookes).

 

[martinspoonboy1]

Unfortunately agree with that.

I think Lancaster had his team set out pre-warm up games (potentially pre-training camps), and I'd be amazed if it's changed since then (bar injury to Corbs and/or Brookes).

My gut tells me that the only change he may have considered (barring those for injury/suspension reasons) is Burgess possibly replacing 12Trees. I'd be shocked if there are any ommisions of the incumbents.