Only just clocked no JvP, he unironically should be starting
-
Help Support The Rugby Forum :
England 2024/25
- Thread starter TRF_Olyy
- Start date
- Status
A return to Japan is a return to kamikaze twins
Orc Lord Of The Rings GIF - Orc Lord Of The Rings Gothmog - Discover & Share GIFs
Click to view the GIF
tenor.com
AngloScotsHybrid
Bench Player
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2021
- Messages
- 936
- Reaction score
- 531
Im pleased Spencer is going. I think he has deserved a lot more England caps than he has got so far.
- Joined
- Feb 18, 2012
- Messages
- 5,603
- Reaction score
- 5,436
Not when we’re touring NZ and the rest of our hookers and locks are pretty inexperienced.
- Joined
- Aug 18, 2015
- Messages
- 10,371
- Reaction score
- 5,996
Not sure what to make of that. Some very confusing picks. Definitely feel like some players can feel very hard done by. If Langdon isn't injured then I'm back to Borthwick out because no one in their right mind would say Oghre is better at the moment.
- Joined
- Apr 12, 2015
- Messages
- 7,568
- Reaction score
- 5,280
Tbh as much as I love Curry (and I do love Curry) I wouldn't be playing him this tour. By all means keep him around the squad to keep him up to date with things but his body deserves the summer off.A return to Japan is a return to kamikaze twins
Orc Lord Of The Rings GIF - Orc Lord Of The Rings Gothmog - Discover & Share GIFs
Click to view the GIF
Edit: Ben on the other hand…
By the time he went off on Saturday, he couldn't lift his arm to chest height.
Whilst we all have our preferences, and I'm not sure I've ever seen a full squad of 36 where I agree with every single pick, I don't think there's anything particularly controversial in this one* - given that Langdon is surely injured.
*ETA: except not giving TCurry and Itoje a rest.
Very true.
- Joined
- Aug 18, 2015
- Messages
- 10,371
- Reaction score
- 5,996
True, guess I'm just a bit underwhelmed tbh. Feel like of the wider squad picks just lack ambition. Maybe I'm being too harsh.
- Joined
- Apr 12, 2015
- Messages
- 7,568
- Reaction score
- 5,280
I’d say Carpenter probably wasn’t gonna be on the plane before Ford’s injury. Furbank becoming the 3rd choice 10 and presumably getting a lot of training reps there moving forward has opened up a slot for another specialist 15. Can’t see us having gone with 3 15s otherwise.
AngloScotsHybrid
Bench Player
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2021
- Messages
- 936
- Reaction score
- 531
There was a time when England didn't take summer tours seriously and picked second string sides. This seems to have changed recently but I am still not sure if England are picking the absolute best team to win these games or if they have experimentation in mind.
Flankers' paradise
Academy Player
- Joined
- Jun 1, 2024
- Messages
- 282
- Reaction score
- 264
Certainly a few player who can feel aggrieved they aren't on that list. I hope we see a couple of England A tests, not like the one against Portugal that was primarily for players too old for the U20s but not yet near test ready, but for a genuine 2nd string squad who can still showcase their worth and stay 'ready' should there be more injuries. Players like Cowan-Dickie, Blamire, Pearson, Radwan, Willis, Kelly, Murley, Hassle-Collins, Quirke, JVP etc
Dutchgeo88
Academy Player
- Joined
- Sep 29, 2023
- Messages
- 35
- Reaction score
- 26
Dan Cole, Charlie Ewels, Alex Dombrandt....the All Blacks are shaking in their boots
Test team kinda picks itself really. Can’t see many areas of debate which is a very good thing.
1. Marler 2. George 3. Stuart
5. Itoje 4. Martin
6. Curry 7. Underhill
8. Earl
9. Mitchell 10. Smith (guessing Marcus starts for experience)
12. Lawrence 13. Slade
11. Freeman 14. Feyi-Waboso
15. Furbank
16. Dan
17. Rodd
18. Cole
19. Coles
20. CCS
21. Spencer
22. Smith
23. Sleightholme
Backrow is only up for debate as curry has been out a while. He’s our starting 6 every day of the week if fit. We should call that trio the 21 (3 7s).
Could swap Cole and Stuart around but guessing Cole comes on with Rodd to help him out. Then there’s who they want at 23 to think about.
Smith vs Smith is the only big debate. Finn is just so good even at this age. Can’t see why you wouldn’t want him starting every game now.
1. Marler 2. George 3. Stuart
5. Itoje 4. Martin
6. Curry 7. Underhill
8. Earl
9. Mitchell 10. Smith (guessing Marcus starts for experience)
12. Lawrence 13. Slade
11. Freeman 14. Feyi-Waboso
15. Furbank
16. Dan
17. Rodd
18. Cole
19. Coles
20. CCS
21. Spencer
22. Smith
23. Sleightholme
Backrow is only up for debate as curry has been out a while. He’s our starting 6 every day of the week if fit. We should call that trio the 21 (3 7s).
Could swap Cole and Stuart around but guessing Cole comes on with Rodd to help him out. Then there’s who they want at 23 to think about.
Smith vs Smith is the only big debate. Finn is just so good even at this age. Can’t see why you wouldn’t want him starting every game now.
Curry at 6, Smith at 10 and I hear Coles on the bench
ABs can't prepare for us if they don't know who tf is playing
ABs can't prepare for us if they don't know who tf is playing
- Joined
- Jan 3, 2017
- Messages
- 1,424
- Reaction score
- 576
My worry would be lightweight back 5 in forwards.
Need cone go forward from someone and only Martin in that mould.
Earl is pretty go forward.
Both Curry's are good carriers, as is Underhill
Wouldn't call that back 5 lightweight at all tbh, only Earl would be smaller than the average in his position but he packs more punch than players twice his size
Wouldn't call that back 5 lightweight at all tbh, only Earl would be smaller than the average in his position but he packs more punch than players twice his size
- Joined
- Feb 18, 2012
- Messages
- 5,603
- Reaction score
- 5,436
I’ve usually been critical of Ewels but he came back from SA a different player. He’s absolutely there on merit IMO.
- Status
