Wales v Ireland

[An Tarbh]

yeah all their fault, seems bizarre though when you think that a try was worth the same as a penalty

 

[shazbooger]

Ahhh I remember a try used to be worth 4 points. Or is that just me being a bit nuts.

 

[An Tarbh]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Mar 20 2009, 12:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Ahhh I remember a try used to be worth 4 points. Or is that just me being a bit nuts.[/b]

no remember that as well, on the flip side France would have beaten us in 85 under the modern scoring system so it goes both ways and we'd have only shared the championship.

 

[An Tarbh]

according to Mark Taylor Cardiff is not the ideal venue for Ireland, he thinks it's fine for Munster but apparently there's a historical barrier for Ireland, obviously true having only won at the Millennium Stadium in 01, 03 and 07

 

[Macsen]

Ireland record against bad Wales teams at the MS: 3/3

Ireland record against good Wales teams at the MS: 0/1

Tomorrow Ireland will be playing a good Wales team.

 

[An Tarbh]

well you were building yourselves up for a slam before you played us in 2007 so you must have been a bad team.

 

[Macsen]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Mar 20 2009, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

well you were building yourselves up for a slam before you played us in 2007 so you must have been a bad team.[/b]

Building ourselves up for a slam, with Gareth Jenkins in charge? You jest.

 

[An Tarbh]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Macsen @ Mar 20 2009, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Mar 20 2009, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

well you were building yourselves up for a slam before you played us in 2007 so you must have been a bad team.[/b]

Building ourselves up for a slam, with Gareth Jenkins in charge? You jest.
[/b][/quote]
in fairness it was only Lora :lol:

 

[Macsen]

Let us look at some facts and figures shall we?

Wales have not beaten Ireland by 13 points for 26 years. Ireland haven't won the Grand Slam in 61 years. Advantage Wales!

Ireland have never beaten a Welsh side which is superior to them. Advantage Wales!

Ireland have only ever won the Grand Slam on March 13. Tomorrow is March 20! Advantage Wales.

I rest my case.

 

[An Tarbh]

well it's the 21st but what that's got to do with the game is beyond me.

I like the logic though, you've not beaten us by 13 points in 26 years so it's obviously advantage Wales.

 

[An Tarbh]

could be a blessing in disguise for Wales as Andy Powell is an injury doubt after picking up a thigh muscle problem according to the BBC. If he misses out than Dafydd Jones would come into the back row and Jonathan Thomas coming onto the bench.

 

[monkeypigeon]

Trevor Brennan fancies Ireland 4-8 to dominate their Welsh counterparts. And Planet Rugby has us down to win by 4.

Dare I argue with the mighty Brennan or Planet Rugby? Ireland to win by 4 points because Ferris is class!

 

[An Tarbh]

I think the one disadvantage for Wales is that there's too many distractions, Gatland's comments haven't helped matters, the contradictory messages coming from players over whether to win the game or focus on the points difference is another and add the possible Powell injury into the equation and it's hardly been the ideal buildup at all.

 

[SmokeyMonkey]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Mar 20 2009, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

well you were building yourselves up for a slam before you played us in 2007 so you must have been a bad team.[/b]

There was no rugby played by Wales in 2007, that year was skipped.

 

[Macsen]

No one expects Wales to win the championship so they're under no pressure there, they're just mentioning the (extremely unlikely) possibility to put more pressure on Ireland. The Irish have recent history of going for a Grand Slam and bottling it by a huge margin so it will be at the back of their minds.

Personally I see the Andy Powell injury as a bonus!

I think Wales are more likely to win but the first 20 mins could settle it. Either Ireland go ahead and the nerves settle and they take the Grand Slam or Wales go ahead and it all gets too much for Ireland.

 

[An Tarbh]

we've gone for a grand slam in 2003 and been beaten by the eventual world champions who were in their pomp at the time.

1982 was the last time before that when we played for the grand slam.

1972 probably would have been another chance but Wales and Scotland were too chicken **** to come to Dublin, yet England did.

so there's not a huge history of playing for grand slams and I think 51 was the last chance before that, which has already been discussed in this thread.

 

[An Tarbh]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Macsen @ Mar 20 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

No one expects Wales to win the championship so they're under no pressure there, they're just mentioning the (extremely unlikely) possibility to put more pressure on Ireland. The Irish have recent history of going for a Grand Slam and bottling it by a huge margin so it will be at the back of their minds.

Personally I see the Andy Powell injury as a bonus!

I think Wales are more likely to win but the first 20 mins could settle it. Either Ireland go ahead and the nerves settle and they take the Grand Slam or Wales go ahead and it all gets too much for Ireland.[/b]

well that's the most fascinating thing about this match, Wales have started well in their matches but Ireland have finished stronger, big question is will Wales be out of sight if they get a good start.

 

[shazbooger]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SmokeyMonkey @ Mar 20 2009, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

There was no rugby played by Wales in 2007, that year was skipped.[/b]

lol, made me laugh that one.

I see it more of a try scoring contest. One try + a few kicks wont win it for Ireland. Can Ireland score two tries and hold Wales to just the same? Im not so sure we can.

Ireland to win by 60.

Oh but Wayne Barnes is reffing.

Wales to win by 60

 

[shtove]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Macsen @ Mar 21 2009, 03:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Let us look at some facts and figures shall we?

Wales have not beaten Ireland by 13 points for 26 years. Ireland haven't won the Grand Slam in 61 years. Advantage Wales!

Ireland have never beaten a Welsh side which is superior to them. Advantage Wales!

Ireland have only ever won the Grand Slam on March 13. Tomorrow is March 20! Advantage Wales.

I rest my case.[/b]

Well, I guess that's it. It was great while it lasted.

 

[An Tarbh]

ah but we've got the Flash who's never lost against the Welsh!