Wales Training Squad

[TRF_Olyy]

Poaching = finishing off tries made by others.
I'd say that's what Cuthbert does, and there's literally nothing wrong with that. He's a world class finisher and you want something like that on the end of the work done elsewhere. Ashton was the same for England, and Strettle is the same for Saracens - don't create much but will get over the line given half a sniff.

 

[goodNumber10]

My point is that labeling a winger who has scored most of his tries by either going through a tackle, or by going round them - a 'poacher' is idiotic and yet another veiled troll by you. Everything you post about Wales has an undercurrent of negativity and it's obvious to all. You think that when you argue with someone, they make you look a fool and then simply forget about it and move on to your next battle. You're the worst poster i've seen in a long time. Along with your little buddies.

If i'm not allowed to discuss England in this thread, then may i point you to the England thread where Wales have been mentioned numerous times. Yet again with the hypocritical response by you.


Still waiting to be banned moderators - I won't be tempted to reply to these idiots if you do. Cheers.

 

[Jbobo]

Poaching = finishing off tries made by others.
I'd say that's what Cuthbert does, and there's literally nothing wrong with that. He's a world class finisher and you want something like that on the end of the work done elsewhere. Ashton was the same for England, and Strettle is the same for Saracens - don't create much but will get over the line given half a sniff.

As i said, many of his tries involve him beating at least one, sometimes numerous, players before scoring. By your definition almost every try scored by any player on the pitch is a poach, as few are scored by one player alone. Cuthbert has many negatives, but his running is very very good. He can score tries from all over and frequently outpaces or out-muscles opposition to score, similar to North yet often less spectacular.

If you look at the tries against England 2013 (i use this example because i am certain you will remember them without me needing to find a video) the first was a result of through the hands passing out wide. When it got to Cuthbert, he used his pace and power to outpace and hand off Brown to score a try from near enough the halfway line. That was in no way a poaching try and i believe is very characteristic of Alex, such is his running ability in so many of the tries he has scored. The second try was indeed a poachers try, as it was a team try (particular thanks to Warburton and Tipuric). You're taking away a huge amount from Cuthbert by labeling him a poacher.

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You remind me of that scraggly little chav kid who always sat in the corner of the playground eating dog poo.

Ever since you went mad after being made to look an utter moron in the Liam Williams is a 'racist' thread, you've proved time and time again that you are seriously lacking in intelligence and ability to harbor a decent thought. Just wait until someone picks apart your arguments and then once again we will see you tantrum and whine and refuse not to have the last word.
It may seem like I've had an Internet meltdown, but the best trolls like yourself do that to people over months. Along with the rest of the tw*t pack.

 

[Peat]

Poaching = finishing off tries made by others.
I'd say that's what Cuthbert does, and there's literally nothing wrong with that. He's a world class finisher and you want something like that on the end of the work done elsewhere. Ashton was the same for England, and Strettle is the same for Saracens - don't create much but will get over the line given half a sniff.

He does mostly finish off tries, but he often has more work to do than simply collecting the last pass and running very fast though, which I think is Jbobo's point and one I'd agree with.

Finisher is the right word for Cuthbert imo.

 

[goodNumber10]

He does mostly finish off tries, but he often has more work to do than simply collecting the last pass and running very fast though, which I think is Jbobo's point and one I'd agree with.

Finisher is the right word for Cuthbert imo.

I think Jbobo's point is just to pick a fight with me over anything he can - even when he's agreeing with me.

Poacher is accurate enough, but we're arguing semantics, the fundamental point is he scores tries for Wales, and game breaking tries at that... the only game breaking thing i can recall williams doing is costing Wales a game in SA.

 

[Peat]

I think Jbobo's point is just to pick a fight with me over anything he can - even when he's agreeing with me.

Takes two to tango from where I'm sat but I'll leave that to the mods.

 

[goodNumber10]

Ever since you went mad after being made to look an utter moron in the Liam Williams is a 'racist' thread,

yeah, that never happened.

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Takes two to tango .

Only if both people want to dance.

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As i said, many of his tries involve him beating at least one, sometimes numerous, players before scoring. By your definition almost every try scored by any player on the pitch is a poach, as few are scored by one player alone. Cuthbert has many negatives, but his running is very very good. He can score tries from all over and frequently outpaces or out-muscles opposition to score, similar to North yet often less spectacular.

If you look at the tries against England 2013 (i use this example because i am certain you will remember them without me needing to find a video) the first was a result of through the hands passing out wide. When it got to Cuthbert, he used his pace and power to outpace and hand off Brown to score a try from near enough the halfway line. That was in no way a poaching try and i believe is very characteristic of Alex, such is his running ability in so many of the tries he has scored. The second try was indeed a poachers try, as it was a team try (particular thanks to Warburton and Tipuric). You're taking away a huge amount from Cuthbert by labeling him a poacher.

You're arging semantics where there is absolutely no reason to argue them... the fundamental point is Cuthbert scores tries, regardless of the definition. He's scored game breaking tries on a number of occasions for Wales and as you've illustrated the Lions.

You are backing my original point up 100%.

***Edit, I've just blocked him, it's better for everyone.

 

[Jbobo]

I think Jbobo's point is just to pick a fight with me over anything he can - even when he's agreeing with me.

Poacher is accurate enough, but we're arguing semantics, the fundamental point is he scores tries for Wales, and game breaking tries at that... ste only game breaking thing i can recall williams doing is costing Wales a game in SA.

I think that if you think this is all about just this one thread/day then you do not understand at all. I'm very tempted to go through all the threads I've commented in just to quote you. But i obviously won't. Regardless, you are free to say what you want and I would defend your right to. However, it does not infuriate me less and that's why I am looking forward to just being banned so that on a months time I don't just come back on and let reading your comments drive me mad.

Anyway, poaching is characterized by someone who simply receives the last pass and then dabs it down for a try with little creativity or skill. But in reality of we are honest, you are using the term because you don't want to sound like you're complimenting a welsh player. As always you will do whatever to minimize any positivity for anything welsh. This is your biggest characteristic on this forum from what I've seen, and I've got a good memory. As I said, it seems you are lumping this on every winger in the world, as their job is to finish in any way they can. He would not be a Wales intl if all he could do was finish others work, he can create his own as well, the proof is there, you just choose to ignore it and say 'it's just my opinion'. Having an opinion doesn't mean you aren't factually wrong.
It sounds like you're trying to use the idea of poaching in football in rugby as well. Not possible.

 

[chippieolamus]

If you don't want to continue on this forum, just leave. I don't see why you need to ask to be banned and draw attention to yourself. You're the one who seems like a spoilt child, I'm sorry to say.

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As always you will do whatever to minimize any positivity for anything welsh. This is your biggest characteristic on this forum from what I've seen, and I've got a good memory.

Oh, and this is hilariously ironic.

 

[Tony Manx]

Interestingly, Daffyd James is quoted on BBC Teletext as saying Cuthbert will have a job getting back in the side even if Williams does not recover as he has not put his hand up this season!

Also on Teletext, Gatland says he will pick Faletau even if he goes to Bath as "they came looking for him"! It is not his decision if someone comes looking for him".

There is pragmatism for you!!!! Tricky so and so......!!!

 

[Jbobo]

If you don't want to continue on this forum, just leave. I don't see why you need to ask to be banned and draw attention to yourself. You're the one who seems like a spoilt child, I'm sorry to say.

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Oh, and this is hilariously ironic.

Dude, you're chippieolamus. Enough said.

 

[goodNumber10]

Interestingly, Daffyd James is quoted on BBC Teletext as saying Cuthbert will have a job getting back in the side even if Williams does not recover as he has not put his hand up this season!

Also on Teletext, Gatland says he will pick Faletau even if he goes to Bath as "they came looking for him"! It is not his decision if someone comes looking for him".

There is pragmatism for you!!!! Tricky so and so......!!!

James is right in that be hasn't put his hand up, but a long tournament camp like this is very different to regular season.

 

[valley commando]

Interested why you would even consider a 50 cap player like Lydiate would be left out for a player barely proven as anything more than a good club player . Not saying he can't be better than that but imo that's where Moriarty is at at the moment . Also interested in who you consider as an ample replacement for Biggar imo he's one of the best outside halves in Europe at the moment and heads and shoulders above anyone Wales have

What I said was Lydiate and Moriarty on the bench, Moriarty wasn't replacing Lydiate, I just prefer Typyric at 7 and Warbs at 6.
For my mind Biggar is as you say one of, if not the best 10 playing in Europe at the moment, what I meant is there are 3 or 4 decent 10 options for the bench, my personal choice would be Hooky.

 

[valley commando]

My point is that labeling a winger who has scored most of his tries by either going through a tackle, or by going round them - a 'poacher' is idiotic and yet another veiled troll by you. Everything you post about Wales has an undercurrent of negativity and it's obvious to all. You think that when you argue with someone, they make you look a fool and then simply forget about it and move on to your next battle. You're the worst poster i've seen in a long time. Along with your little buddies.

If i'm not allowed to discuss England in this thread, then may i point you to the England thread where Wales have been mentioned numerous times. Yet again with the hypocritical response by you.


Still waiting to be banned moderators - I won't be tempted to reply to these idiots if you do. Cheers.

You are bang on there any of us say anything negative about England we get accused of all sorts

 

[goodNumber10]

You are bang on there any of us say anything negative about England we get accused of all sorts

Even if that was true, which it's not, it's a completely irrelevant point as no one has said anything negative about Wales during this whole little meltdown.....

 

[ZeroTwo]

I also got slammed merely for saying we should focus on Wales. I'm not even English.

But now we're just going to focus on the England/Wales divide. So here goes an attempt (however much in vain) to bring it back:

If Rhys Webb gets injured, will Mike Phillips be good enough to be a replacement? Just on form and recent seasons where his abrasive attitude seems to have been worked by oppositions.

 

[Wendigo7]

Can we bring it back on thread please...

Well, I'll be one of the few Englishman here who would love to see Wales go through. Great side, worried about Lee's injury and that head knock to North and Penny are going concerns. Some bad luck with Davies and Liam Williams.

I suppose the big bonus is that Scott Williams is a good centre, Biggars in form and a side who will feel as though they are underdogs somewhat in the group have nothing to worry about and have a right go at teams.

 

[goodNumber10]

Can we bring it back on thread please...

Well, I'll be one of the few Englishman here who would love to see Wales go through. Great side, worried about Lee's injury and that head knock to North and Penny are going concerns. Some bad luck with Davies and Liam Williams.

I suppose the big bonus is that Scott Williams is a good centre, Biggars in form and a side who will feel as though they are underdogs somewhat in the group have nothing to worry about and have a right go at teams.

I think most people would like to see Wales go through at the expense of Australia.

Biggar is class, Williams (scortt) is brilliant but I prefer him at 12...

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I also got slammed merely for saying we should focus on Wales. I'm not even English.

But now we're just going to focus on the England/Wales divide. So here goes an attempt (however much in vain) to bring it back:

If Rhys Webb gets injured, will Mike Phillips be good enough to be a replacement? Just on form and recent seasons where his abrasive attitude seems to have been worked by oppositions.

As with the cuthbert point, don't underestimate what an impact a long camp like this can have, people are fitter, sharper, out of their negative club environment and so on... he could be a completely different player come the world cup.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

What I said was Lydiate and Moriarty on the bench, Moriarty wasn't replacing Lydiate, I just prefer Typyric at 7 and Warbs at 6.
For my mind Biggar is as you say one of, if not the best 10 playing in Europe at the moment, what I meant is there are 3 or 4 decent 10 options for the bench, my personal choice would be Hooky.

Genuine question: Have you watched much of Moriarty? Or is it just his name that's enticing you in?

The guy certainly shows TONS of potential, and in a year or two will be some player, but at the moment he's only really a premiership squad player, who's had the game time he has due to injuries (again - this isn't a slight on him - he's barely out of nappies, and that Gloucester have trusted him with the game time they have, shows the potential he possesses).
He's not ready to be in a first choice RWC 23 atm. I don't think he'd be training with Wales if he hadn't played for England at u20s, and they weren't worried he might get a token Saxons cap in the near future.

 

[Jbobo]

If Rhys Webb gets injured, will Mike Phillips be good enough to be a replacement? .

Nah.