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According to Scrum V on the BBC, the Welsh RFU is about to resurrect their A team. The team was scrapped in 2003 due to costs. The team will play a couple of fixtures next spring...

Ruddock was the last Wales A coach and believes it is an ideal vehicle for helping to develop anyone seeking to take charge at full Test level.
He says Cardiff Blues coach Dai Young, Newport Gwent Dragons boss Paul Turner, Ospreys head coach Sean Holley and Scarlets boss Nigel Davies could hone their skills in charge of a national second string.
Ruddock, who is now in charge of Ireland Under 20, said: "There's great talent in Wales on the coaching front and the A team could be good vehicle to actually make sure that talent comes through.
"I think it would be fantastic if an A team got up and running. Obviously Ireland have an A team.
"They don't play a full programme, of course, because Wales and a couple of other sides don't run their A teams for financial reasons.
"But Ireland have made sure they've got two or three games in on the calendar and they've gone to the Churchill Cup, of course, as well and that's been a great development tool for them.

"I don't know whether Wales want to play a whole programme, but a couple of games could be good for them."
However, Ruddock says there could be difficulties in finding fixture slots for an A team and says not having the team during the formative years of the nation's regions was not necessarily a bad thing.
"I don't know if Wales have missed out, really, because the important thing was to bed in the regions.
"And I think that until the academies started to produce a number of players, which they are doing now, it would have been difficult to pick a senior team and play a Magners team and, say, play at Under 20 Under-21 internationals and fit the A team in on top - it would have been impossible.
"But whether you can do it around Magners weekends and run all the other teams is a question that perhaps the WRU needs to sit down and take a look at - and how or whether or not that will conflict with the regions.
"But certainly one or two A internationals, I would have thought, would be a positive move at the right times of the season."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/9013716.stm
 
Ye posted something similar a while back, this will be huge. If they need they should look at going to the Churchill Cup for instance!
 
Curious as to see who will coach this side.
I would have wanted Phil Davies, but he is now at Worcester.
Perhaps Paul Turner, he seems to be able to work well with younger, inexperienced players.

What about a possible 22?

15. Martyn Thomas
14. George North.
13. Tom Cheeseman
12. Gareth Owen/Ashley Smith
11. Will Harries
10. Jason Tovey
9. Tavis Knoyle

1. Dan Watchurst/Ryan Bevington
2. Ken Owens/ Rhys Williams
3. Eifion Lewis-Roberts
4. James Down
5. ?
6. Josh Navidi
7. Dan Lydiate
8. Toby Faletau

16. Hugh Gustafson
17. Richard Hibbard
18. (Second Row ?)
19. Gavin Quinnell, perhaps
20. Lloyd Williams
21. Rhys Priestland
22. Daniel Evans
 
Draggs no offence but the side is ... well quite a poor selection ... Martyn Thomas? He's out injured and I doubt he will be back to any sort of form before the end of the season.

1. Duncan Jones
2. Richard Hibbard
3. Scott Andrews
4. James Down
5. James King
6. Josh Turnbull
7. Josh Navidi
8. Toby Falatau
9. Martin Roberts
10. Ceri Sweeney
11. Tom Prydie
12. Gareth Owen
13. Ashley Smith
14. George North
15. Daniel Evans / Morgan Stoddart

16. Rhys Thomas
17. Hugh Gustafson
18. Robert Sidoli
19. Andries Pretorius
20. Tavis Knoyle
21. Matthew Jarvis
22. Kristian Phillips

Others:

Dan Watchurst
Ryan Bevington
Sam Hobbs
Rhodri Jones
Steve Jones
Rhys Williams
Arthur Ellis
Eifion Lewis-Robert
Pat Palmer
Adam Jones
Aaron Shingler
Dafydd Jones
Jonathan Edwards
Robin Sowden-Taylor
Gavin Thomas
Lewis Evans
Ben Lewis
Hugo Ellis
Lloyd Williams
Wayne Evans
Rhys Webb
Tom Isaacs
Matthew Jones
Ashley Beck
Tom Riley
Rhodri Gomer-Davies
Tom Cheeseman
Richard Fussell
James Loxton
Dan Fish
Barry Davies
Martyn Thomas
 
Draggs no offence but the side is ... well quite a poor selection ... Martyn Thomas? He's out injured and I doubt he will be back to any sort of form before the end of the season.

1. Duncan Jones
2. Richard Hibbard
3. Scott Andrews
4. James Down
5. James King
6. Josh Turnbull
7. Josh Navidi
8. Toby Falatau
9. Martin Roberts
10. Ceri Sweeney
11. Tom Prydie
12. Gareth Owen
13. Ashley Smith
14. George North
15. Daniel Evans / Morgan Stoddart

16. Rhys Thomas
17. Hugh Gustafson
18. Robert Sidoli
19. Andries Pretorius
20. Tavis Knoyle
21. Matthew Jarvis
22. Kristian Phillips

Others:

Dan Watchurst
Ryan Bevington
Sam Hobbs
Rhodri Jones
Steve Jones
Rhys Williams
Arthur Ellis
Eifion Lewis-Robert
Pat Palmer
Adam Jones
Aaron Shingler
Dafydd Jones
Jonathan Edwards
Robin Sowden-Taylor
Gavin Thomas
Lewis Evans
Ben Lewis
Hugo Ellis
Lloyd Williams
Wayne Evans
Rhys Webb
Tom Isaacs
Matthew Jones
Ashley Beck
Tom Riley
Rhodri Gomer-Davies
Tom Cheeseman
Richard Fussell
James Loxton
Dan Fish
Barry Davies
Martyn Thomas

None taken.
I was thinking in at least a year and more of the younger players.

-What are the requirements for playing on an 'A' side, as far as residency goes?
I was thinking of Pretorius, but he has not yet achieved Welsh qualification (if its even needed for this side).
 
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1. e. roberts
2. ken owens
3. hugh gustafson
4. ian evans
5. james down
6. joe bearman
7. Tom Smith
8. Toby Falatau
9. Travis Knoyle
10. jason tovey
11. Aled Brew
12. Ashley Smith
13. Jon Davies
14. Will Harries
15. Gareth Owen
 
Right, have I been living under a rock? Who the hell is James Down and why is everyone mentioning him?!
 
This would be my team:

01 John Yapp (I'd leave Duncan Jones to recapture some form at the O's first, Gustafson needs to learn how to scrummage)
02 Ken Owens / Richard Hibbard (all depends on who's in the full squad)
03 Eifion Lewis-Roberts
04 Dom Day / Lou Reed
05 Ian Evans / Ian Gough (a couple of experienced players are needed imo)
06 Dan Lydiate / Josh Turnbull
07 Ben Lewis
08 Toby Faletau

09 Tavis Knoyle / Lloyd Williams (hell even Peel, what a fall from grace eh!)
10 Dan Biggar / Jason Tovey
11 Aled Brew
12 Gareth Owen / Ashley Smith
13 Jon Davies
14 George North (what a find he is!)
15 Tom Prydie (this is where his future lies imo)

16 Duncan Jones
17 Rhys Thomas (although he's pushing for the first team again)
18 Craig Mitchell
19 Lou Reed / Dom Day
20 Andreus Pretorius
21 Lloyd Williams / Tavis Knoyle
22 Ceri Sweeney
23 Tom James / Morgan Stoddard
 
None taken.
I was thinking in at least a year and more of the younger players.

-What are the requirements for playing on an 'A' side, as far as residency goes?
I was thinking of Pretorius, but he has not yet achieved Welsh qualification (if its even needed for this side).

From what I am aware with Huw Llewellyn Davies mentioning it before, that he is qualified for Wales as of this season apparently. He went to school in Millfield, but is apparently available for Wales.

Right, have I been living under a rock? Who the hell is James Down and why is everyone mentioning him?!

Yes ... yes you have! Been impressive for Wales U20's and has looked good in his brief appearances for the Blues.
 
From what I am aware with Huw Llewellyn Davies mentioning it before, that he is qualified for Wales as of this season apparently. He went to school in Millfield, but is apparently available for Wales.

Ah, good. He has already said he'd like to play for Wales down the line. Seems decent, with room for improvement.
Dullonien- definately right about needing some experience with the squad.
I'd almost put Charteris in the A side over Ian Evans, as I have always thought Evans is better (except when injured... constantly).
 
Evans latest injury will rule him out of contention again for another part of this season, so he may well be looked at the A-Team to get some valuable international game time.
 
Evans latest injury will rule him out of contention again for another part of this season, so he may well be looked at the A-Team to get some valuable international game time.

.... Seriously.... Evans and Henson- injured.
 
That's what I was thinking Cymro. Hopefully this injury isn't another 6 monther and he'll be back in a couple of weeks, but he looks doubtful to make the Welsh AI squad and the 6 nations further down the line. Whilst he isn't missed as much as before the emergence of Bradley Davies, he's probably still one of the best all-round second rows we have (aggression, size, lineout ability and power).

I feel that over the past year Wales have been really missing an A-team. The likes of Biggar, Prydie, Tom James and Jon Davies have probably been thrown into the national team too quickly and playing at an A standard would have been the correct progression for them, meaning they'd be at a slightly higher level when handed full honours.
 
That's what I was thinking Cymro. Hopefully this injury isn't another 6 monther and he'll be back in a couple of weeks, but he looks doubtful to make the Welsh AI squad and the 6 nations further down the line. Whilst he isn't missed as much as before the emergence of Bradley Davies, he's probably still one of the best all-round second rows we have (aggression, size, lineout ability and power).

I feel that over the past year Wales have been really missing an A-team. The likes of Biggar, Prydie, Tom James and Jon Davies have probably been thrown into the national team too quickly and playing at an A standard would have been the correct progression for them, meaning they'd be at a slightly higher level when handed full honours.

Tom James and Jon Davies specifically- they play great at regional level, but need some step before international level.
Ian Evans had a great season for Wales in 2008 and would be a valuable asset going into the World Cup.
That being said, Paul ***o qualifies for Wales.... :D
 
Tom James and Jon Davies specifically- they play great at regional level, but need some step before international level.
Ian Evans had a great season for Wales in 2008 and would be a valuable asset going into the World Cup.
That being said, Paul ***o qualifies for Wales.... :D

***o has said he would not play for Wales, I dunno how good he would be, last season he was a little poor at times for the Blues, hopefully this season he will find the magic again.
 
***o has said he would not play for Wales, I dunno how good he would be, last season he was a little poor at times for the Blues, hopefully this season he will find the magic again.

He didn't rule out completely.
I believe he said that as Wales have good cover, they don't really need him.
I'd still like to see him play a few matches for us, as I don't think he'd let us down.

Besides...
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