If what... (about United Rugby Championship, EPCR tournaments, and GalBrEuscat Rugby... what is these?)

[GalBrEusCat]

EUROPEAN RUGBY CHAMPIONS CUP
7 from Premiership
7 from Top-14
7 from URC (Pro 14*)
3 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**

EPCR CHALLENGE CUP
7 from Premiership
7 from Top-14
7 from URC (Pro 14*)
3 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**

RUGBY EUROPE SUPER CUP
4 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**
4 from Top 10 (Italy)
4 from Didi 10 (Georgia)
4 from Liga de Rugby Kaufland (Romania)
2/3 from Pari-Russian Rugby Championship
5/6 from Europe Super Rugby (5: Bohemia Warriors, Brussels Devils, Castilla y León Iberians, Luistanos XV, The Delta)


* Pro 14
Connacht
Leinster
Munster
Ulster
Edinburgh
Glasgow Warriors
Cardiff
Dragons
Ospreys
Scarlets
Benetton
Zebre Parma
Caledonia Reds (new)
Praetorians (new)

** Ligue GalBrEusCat
RC Vannes (from Bretagne)
Rennes EC (from Bretagne)
Aviron Bayonnais (from Basque Country)
Biarritz Olympique (from Basque Country)
Anglet ORC (from Basque Country)
Ordizia KE (from Basque Country)
USA Perpignan (from Catalonia)
UE Santboiana (from Catalonia)
Cornish Pirates (from Cornwall)
Camborne RFC (from Cornwall)

> The various sports federations (especially in football) of Galiza, Brerizh, Euskal Herria and Catalunya are the most claimants in wanting their situation to be made official and to be able to compete in international tournaments with their national teams. What if the solution is a multi-national confederation format? That is to say, leagues in which the professional categories are played by Galician, Breton, Basque and Catalan teams.
Cornish Pirates and Camborne RFC are clubs from Cornwall, The intention of their inclusion in the Ligue GalBrEusCat is that this competition can be a springboard for mutual development, as the RFU teams face a very tough barrier preventing their promotion to the Premiership Rugby, that hinders their development.

See also:
SUPER RUGBY ATLANTIC

 

[GalBrEusCat]

If what 2024-25 season:

EUROPEAN RUGBY CHAMPIONS CUP
7 from Premiership: Northampton Saints, Bath, Sale Sharks, Saracens, Bristol Bears, Harlequins, Exeter Chiefs
7 from Top-14: Toulouse, Stade Français, Bordeaux Bègles, Toulon, La Rochelle, Racing 92, Castres
7 from URC (Pro 14*): Munster, Leinster, Glasgow Warriors, Ulster, Benetton, Ospreys, Edinburgh
3 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**: USA Perpignan, Aviron Bayonnais, Cornish Pirates

EPCR CHALLENGE CUP
7 from Premiership: Leicester Tigers, Gloucester, Newcastle Falcons, Coventry, Ealing Trailfinders, Bedford Blues, Hartpury University
7 from Top-14: Clermont, Pau, Lyon, Montpellier, Provence, Grenoble, Béziers
7 from URC (Pro 14*): Connacht, Cardiff, Scarlets, Dragons, Zebre Parma, Caledonia Reds, Praetorinas
3 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**: Vannes RC, Anget ORC, UE Santboiana

RUGBY EUROPE SUPER CUP
4 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**: Camborne RFC, Ordizia KE, St-Jean-de-Luz olympique
4 from Top 10 (Italy): Petrarca, Rovigo, Valorugby, Viadana
4 from Didi 10 (Georgia): Aia Kutaisi, Lelo Saracens, Kochebi Bolnisi, Ares Kutaisi
4 from Liga de Rugby Kaufland (Romania): Timișoara, Baia Mare, Dinamo București, Steaua București
3 from Pari-Russian Rugby Championship: Strela-Agro Kazan, Yenisey-STM, Lokomotiv
5 from Europe Super Rugby: Brussels Devils, Castilla y León Iberians, Luistanos XV, The Delta, Edelweiße (SWI)

CONTINENTAL CLUB RUBY LEAGUE
4 from Didi 10 (Georgia): RC Batumi, Khvamli Tbilisi, Rustavi Kharebi, Kazbegi
4 from Liga de Rugby Kaufland (Romania): Universitatea Cluj-Napoca, Politehnica Iași, CSM Constanța, RC Bârlad
4 from Pari-Russian Rugby Championship: Krasny Yar, Dynamo Moscow, Metallurg Novokuznetsk, Slava Moscow
4 from Europe Super Rugby: Bohemia Warriors, Adler (GER), Bizony (POL), Einherjar (SWE)

 

[GalBrEusCat]

If what 2024-25 season:

EUROPEAN RUGBY CHAMPIONS CUP
7 from Premiership: Northampton Saints, Bath, Sale Sharks, Saracens, Bristol Bears, Harlequins, Exeter Chiefs
7 from Top-14: Toulouse, Stade Français, Bordeaux Bègles, Toulon, La Rochelle, Racing 92, Castres
7 from URC (Pro 14*): Munster, Leinster, Glasgow Warriors, Ulster, Benetton, Ospreys, Edinburgh
3 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**: USA Perpignan, Aviron Bayonnais, Cornish Pirates

EPCR CHALLENGE CUP
7 from Premiership: Leicester Tigers, Gloucester, Newcastle Falcons, Coventry, Ealing Trailfinders, Bedford Blues, Hartpury University
7 from Top-14: Clermont, Pau, Lyon, Montpellier, Provence, Grenoble, Béziers
7 from URC (Pro 14*): Connacht, Cardiff, Scarlets, Dragons, Zebre Parma, Caledonia Reds, Praetorinas
3 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**: Vannes RC, Anget ORC, UE Santboiana

RUGBY EUROPE SUPER CUP
4 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**: Camborne RFC, Rennes EC, Ordizia KE, St-Jean-de-Luz olympique
4 from Top 10 (Italy): Petrarca, Rovigo, Valorugby, Viadana
4 from Didi 10 (Georgia): Aia Kutaisi, Lelo Saracens, Kochebi Bolnisi, Ares Kutaisi
4 from Liga de Rugby Kaufland (Romania): Timișoara, Baia Mare, Dinamo București, Steaua București
3 from Pari-Russian Rugby Championship: Strela-Agro Kazan, Yenisey-STM, Lokomotiv
5 from Europe Super Rugby: Brussels Devils, Castilla y León Iberians, Luistanos XV, The Delta, Edelweiße (SWI)

CONTINENTAL CLUB RUBY LEAGUE
4 from Didi 10 (Georgia): RC Batumi, Khvamli Tbilisi, Rustavi Kharebi, Kazbegi
4 from Liga de Rugby Kaufland (Romania): Universitatea Cluj-Napoca, Politehnica Iași, CSM Constanța, RC Bârlad
4 from Pari-Russian Rugby Championship: Krasny Yar, Dynamo Moscow, Metallurg Novokuznetsk, Slava Moscow
4 from Europe Super Rugby: Bohemia Warriors, Adler (GER), Bizony (POL), Einherjar (SWE)

A few years later....

RUGBY EUROPE SUPER CUP (16 teams)
4 from Ligue GalBrEusCat
4 from Top 10 (Italy)
3 or 4 from Didi 10 (Georgia)
3 or 4 from Liga de Rugby Kaufland (Romania)
3 or 4 from Pari-Russian Rugby Championship (Russia)
3 from División de Honor (Spain)
3 from Campeonato Português (Portugal)

CONTINENTAL CLUB RUBY LEAGUE (Eastern Conference, 16 teams)
4 or 3 from Didi 10 (Georgia)
4 or 3 from Liga de Rugby Kaufland (Romania)
4 or 3 from Pari-Russian Rugby Championship (Russia)
5 franchises from Europe Super Rugby: Adler (GER), Bizony (POL), Einherjar (SWE), Amber Warriosrs (LET and LIT), Kozaky (UKR)

CONTINENTAL CLUB RUBY LEAGUE (Western Conference, 16 teams)
3 from Top 10 (Italy)
2 or 3 from GalbrEusCat League-2
3 from División de Honor (Spain)
3 from Campeonato Português (Portugal)
5 or 4 franchises from Europe Super Rugby: Brussels Devils (BEL), The Delta (NED), Bohemian Warriors (CZE), Edelweiße (SWI),... and Vatreni (CRO)

 

[higgik]

Like the plan.
I would make the Pro14 into a Celtic League though, removing the Italian teams and adding Cornish Pirates and RC Vannes to the 10 current teams.
When ready, a 3rd Scottish team could be added, and also look at adding London Irish and London Scottish.
15 teams 3 conferences of 5 playing an 18 game season would work well.

The Italians should be part of a Continental League including French and Iberian teams.

 

[spursindevon]

This is all far too expansionist, I'd prefer Saracens to play in a two team premiership with Harlequins 20 times a season, followed by a European Cup (English and Welsh teams only). Saracens, Harlequins and Cardiff then play each other 10 times.

 

[GalBrEusCat]

This is all far too expansionist, I'd prefer Saracens to play in a two team premiership with Harlequins 20 times a season, followed by a European Cup (English and Welsh teams only). Saracens, Harlequins and Cardiff then play each other 10 times.

It's not about looking for what's best for yourself (one club or one competition), but what's best for you and for others.

 

[spursindevon]

It's not about looking for what's best for yourself (one club or one competition), but what's best for you and for others.

Yes, it's all about the good of the game, I forgot to add about the international game:
1. Bin off the World Cup - modernist nonsense
2. Revert back to the Home Nations Championships - who needs France and Italy
3. South Africa and New Zealand play each other in an endless loop to determine who is world champion

This is the future of rugby

 

[higgik]

Yes, it's all about the good of the game, I forgot to add about the international game:
1. Bin off the World Cup - modernist nonsense
2. Revert back to the Home Nations Championships - who needs France and Italy
3. South Africa and New Zealand play each other in an endless loop to determine who is world champion

This is the future of rugby

On a serious note, domestic rugby should be looking at how the NFL was created.
A visionary leader persuaded clubs to share revenue, including gate receipts, with the idea that the game grows, so profits grow in the long term.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Is there anything to be said for being happy with the URC as is? Think only the Welsh don't like it.

 

[higgik]

Is there anything to be said for being happy with the URC as is? Think only the Welsh don't like it.

True.
Think the concept is great. Maybe let the Italians go to France and a Top16.
Then there might be room for Cornish Pirates and London Irish.

 

[GalBrEusCat]

This is how it would be without the bankruptcy of the English teams (2024-25)

EUROPEAN RUGBY CHAMPIONS CUP
7 from Premiership: Northampton Saints, Bath, Sale Sharks, Saracens, Bristol Bears, Harlequins, Exeter Chiefs
7 from Top-14: Toulouse, Stade Français, Bordeaux Bègles, Toulon, La Rochelle, Racing 92, Castres
7 from URC (Pro 14*): Munster, Leinster, Glasgow Warriors, Ulster, Benetton, Ospreys, Edinburgh
3 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**: USA Perpignan, Aviron Bayonnais, Cornish Pirates

EPCR CHALLENGE CUP
7 from Premiership: Leicester Tigers, Gloucester, Newcastle Falcons, Ealing Trailfinders, London Waps, London Irish, Worcester Warriors
7 from Top-14: Clermont, Pau, Lyon, Montpellier, Provence, Grenoble, Béziers
7 from URC (Pro 14*): Connacht, Cardiff, Scarlets, Dragons, Zebre Parma, Caledonia Reds, Praetorinas
3 from Ligue GalBrEusCat**: Vannes RC, Anget ORC, UE Santboiana