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The single most destructive president to the western world for as long as the western world has been a thing... Even if he does nothing further, the damage to the trust and reputation of the USA is already done. I wonder just how many sane voices are going to try to talk him out of it, or has the cult fully taken over. Putin must be laughing, if Trump isn't an intentional Russian asset then he is their most useful idiot ever.
 
The single most destructive president to the western world for as long as the western world has been a thing... Even if he does nothing further, the damage to the trust and reputation of the USA is already done. I wonder just how many sane voices are going to try to talk him out of it, or has the cult fully taken over. Putin must be laughing, if Trump isn't an intentional Russian asset then he is their most useful idiot ever.

First half is dramatic, but i get why youd say that, but being a Russian asset is the most sphmoric thing ive read on these boards.

10s of billions plowed into Venezuela just taken away from them, their interests in the Arctic and including Greenland is far better leaving Denmark and weak Nato allies to control it, allows them axxess to the NSR, and to use their icebreakers, reopen bases and redeploy weaponry, plus resources etc, If Greenland did fall under US control Russia would be devestated, not to mention Chinese investment and tech utilised in the Arctic lost.

The idea any of this benefits Russia is ludicrous, Venezuela and the Arctic are 2 key interests of Russia, cheap Venezuelan oil and Arctic resources have helped Russia export discounted materials into new markets post sanctions, which have made Russia pivot strategically, including leaning toward other currencies.

Russia has been forced to increasingly accept larger risk legally and reputationally, it doesnt help that Trump has also crowded out Russian influence in the middle east, both in terms of influence and markets. Russia no longer is the go to for conflict resolution like in Syria, to the point they didnt even show up in Egypt peace summit, and lost out on Arab arms markets to Trump.

Infact it wouldnt be difficult to argue that Trump has absolutely strangled Russian global interests in one hand, while offering them a reprieve in the other, he can act one way, while realising this war, sanctions and the current anxiety triangle in europe give him a unique opportunity to out his foot on some key necks.

I think this is a massive opportunity for the EU to step up and start playing ball on the global stage, if they make a stand a number of allied countries will stand alongside them... but we all know they wont.

Trump could touchdown in Greenland, plant a flag and declared it MaraLago 2 electric Boogaloo land, and there would be wagging fingers only!

If im right in strategy assessment, i expect pressure to be laid on Greece, Turkey and / or India in skme form, or some sort of insurance shake up within the year. Id also expect skme sort of major Ukrainian operation that shakes restrictions on combat, but a s a retaliation to some sort of Russian war crime.
 
The single most destructive president to the western world for as long as the western world has been a thing... Even if he does nothing further, the damage to the trust and reputation of the USA is already done. I wonder just how many sane voices are going to try to talk him out of it, or has the cult fully taken over. Putin must be laughing, if Trump isn't an intentional Russian asset then he is their most useful idiot ever.
I have no words for him. He’s off his rocker and is exponentially worse than his first sitting as president.
 
Trump has also authorised witholding $10 billion in childcare and family assistance funding from 5 states, all of them Democrat. It's little more than vindictive politics.
 

Venezuelan oil - knocked off the board

Arctic minerals - under threat

Arms market in the east - stolen

Influence in the gulf - eradicated

The life line that is called the shadow fleet - targetted not just recently in the Black sea by Ukraine (lol) but now by the US.

Russia are having a very rough 6 months, Trump has seemingly targetted every life line of theirs since Putin touched US soil, and its not exactly subtle now!

The questiin is, do China have the gall to make moves of their own, or do they abandon their Russia experiement, and sit tight until Trump leaves office.

And can Trump convince the EU to look west for its energy needs instead of east, we all know both Russia and the EU are in a waiting game for sanctions to lift, Russia desperatelt need the market, and unfathomably the EU desperately wants the supply. There will be logistical issues, but i bet my bottom dollar theres a deal to be done, now those pesky democratic limitatuons on Caracas have been (or have been seen to be) lifted.

Well thats my thought process anyway, tunnel vision im strangulation of Russia, but at the same time causing instability in Ukranian defence and scaring the EU into action he wants. Im happy to be wrong, maybe ive identified too many 1 sided actions and attributed them to a strategy (i know hes a low IQ moron), insread of individual non sensical rants and actions.
 
I'm shocked to see that our local MAGA is MAGAing.
Sorry, the only true neutral, with no political bias at all, who only ever parrots MAGA talking points

The above is MAGA talking points?!

THe very idea there is strategy in what the US does, scares you so much someone criticising Trump is labeled MAGA so you feel good about yourself for not refuting a single point.

ALL of these things happened, they are all fact, why not adress potential strategy behind them? Theres no need to be cowardly, just highlight how each anti Russian incident is pro Russian, there may well be lots in between ive missed, and these actions are far more chaotic and isolated than im seeing, thats why we discuss no?
 
I'm shocked to see that our local MAGA is MAGAing.
Sorry, the only true neutral, with no political bias at all, who only ever parrots MAGA talking points

Let me be specific though, Trump has a screaming match with EU leaders about them funding Russia with their oil purchases, Turmp wants the EU to stop using Russian oil as primary, and at the end of the year, as EU oil purchasing from Venezuela hits an all time low, due to democratic and politocal reasons, the reason for thoe limitations os removed under cover of darkness.

Result is US gets a lot of cheap oil, Russia lose a lot of cheap oil, and the EU can now with their morality showing start increasing their Venezuelan consumption again, meaning they need Russia less, and Russian strategy of holding out post sanctions to resuplly europe becomes more difficult.

Now im just an idiot on the internet, and im in now way pro.oting Tru.ps actions, as i dont know the legalities, but this to me seems related, what have i missed?
 
And the sealioning begins. Amazing that this guy has somehow deluded himself into thinking Trump is opposing Russia 😂

This is just stupid, your not pulling the 'Trump is a Russian puppet' days after Russia loses 10s of billions of investment, and access to oil at pennies on the dollar, and lost 4 shadow fleet ships in 4 weeks...

Thats wild to me, even the most vitriolic idealogue has to admit these moves are negative to the Russian state, surely?
 
As the UK helped get the tanker today. Do we get dibs on half a barrell and a Maccies voucher.

Had to laugh at the "We don't comment on the third party use of UK air bases" Hope that gets rolled out if they go for Greenland.

This is what worries me most, with the instability caused by this pressure, Russia will react, and whereas i dont think they hold the type of threat European leaders are loving to scare populatiins with, you can only push them so far, id have hoped the UK would have been more thoughtful in their actions, thats bombings miles from Russias borders and now a joint venture to capture / steal a Russian ship ( I know the bombings are part of a longer campaign, and targetting certain groups, but its still a job Russia used to do itself, and the capacyity for mistakes and misinterpretation has risen), especially on the Maduro day.

Interestingly, MAGA supporters are talking about returning to Monroe Doctrine of like 1800, America stays out of Eurooe and Europe stays out of American affairs, firstly i dont think the understand the context of that, and secondly i think Trumps trying to entice Europe as a market.
 
Hey Guys, I realise you all have strong opinions on the whole MAGA etc stuff, but Dirty Harry is actually 100% right.

And that's coming from someone who disagrees with what Trump has done in taking over Venezuela and threatening Greenland.

And yes, I think Trumpet is a ginormous fukwit, BUT if you look at the reasons for what he is doing, without having your particular political glasses on, his choices have been founded in sensibility. He's just gone about it in his typical arsehole way
 

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