Under 20 6N - 2018

[Maverick1987]

Is the game on TV ? Or is it just stream ?

 

[Maverick1987]

Anyone find out if the U20s are on TV after ?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Not on Tv it might be streamed somewhere though not sure.

 

[bushytop]

Good try that 0-5

 

[bushytop]

Good try that 0-5

Another try 0-12 what the hell is going on with Ireland at 20's level?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Another try 0-12 what the hell is going on with Ireland at 20's level?

Best Irish U20 currently is captaining the French U20's.

 

[bushytop]

Best Irish U20 currently is captaining the French U20's.

Sounds like quite the career choice

 

[ratsapprentice]

Another try 0-12 what the hell is going on with Ireland at 20's level?

They're not normally particularly good.

Not had long enough to benefit from the smoothies.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Sounds like quite the career choice

TBF his Dad Trevor Brennan is a Toulouse legend.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

We're rarely good at 20's. Only been to the RWC KO's once, never really compete for 6n etc... We are good at getting the best talent from it straight into our pro teams. Stockdale, Ryan, Carbery, Larmour and Porter were all in the last two sides (Admittedly 2015 was our best ever 20's team) and are now internationals. You can add Deegan, Frawley, Vakh, O'Brien, Connors, Keenan to players who've played for Leinster and then a lot of them make the 7's circuit. Wales and England I believe have proper squads at younger age grades and build better teams through that but with the development that they go through in the schools over here, particularly Leinster's top 4, I don't think its worth changing to be competitive.

TBF his Dad Trevor Brennan is a Toulouse legend.

Who hates the IRFU passionately!

 

[bushytop]

TBF his Dad Trevor Brennan is a Toulouse legend.

Ah yes, I heard about him on a pod earlier.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

We're rarely good at 20's. Only been to the RWC KO's once, never really compete for 6n etc... We are good at getting the best talent from it straight into our pro teams. Stockdale, Ryan, Carbery, Larmour and Porter were all in the last two sides (Admittedly 2015 was our best ever 20's team) and are now internationals. You can add Deegan, Frawley, Vakh, O'Brien, Connors, Keenan to players who've played for Leinster and then a lot of them make the 7's circuit. Wales and England I believe have proper squads at younger age grades and build better teams through that but with the development that they go through in the schools over here, particularly Leinster's top 4, I don't think its worth changing to be competitive.


Who hates the IRFU passionately!

well who doesn't.

Not like your "Celtic" brothers Wales and Scotland like the IRFU.

Think the English Pathway tends to be
Local Club
School
Club Academy U16
Club Academy U18 (usually 16 - 18)
England U18
Club Development squad (18 - 20)
Eng U20

it's very systematic and works a charm now but I wish it did a better job at finding more players outside the private schools though.

 

[bushytop]

We're rarely good at 20's. Only been to the RWC KO's once, never really compete for 6n etc... We are good at getting the best talent from it straight into our pro teams. Stockdale, Ryan, Carbery, Larmour and Porter were all in the last two sides (Admittedly 2015 was our best ever 20's team) and are now internationals. You can add Deegan, Frawley, Vakh, O'Brien, Connors, Keenan to players who've played for Leinster and then a lot of them make the 7's circuit. Wales and England I believe have proper squads at younger age grades and build better teams through that but with the development that they go through in the schools over here, particularly Leinster's top 4, I don't think its worth changing to be competitive.


Who hates the IRFU passionately!

For some reason I thought the Irish were quite strong.

The Welsh boys are pretty young in the cycle but there is some hope tha they could be a good batch.

 

[bushytop]

well who doesn't.

Not like your "Celtic" brothers Wales and Scotland like the IRFU.

Think the English Pathway tends to be
Local Club
School
Club Academy U16
Club Academy U18 (usually 16 - 18)
England U18
Club Development squad (18 - 20)
Eng U20

it's very systematic and works a charm now but I wish it did a better job at finding more players outside the private schools though.

To be fair, I think wales have actually pushed some 20s that could still represent us there back to the regions to allow this group a few years together playing in this competion.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

well who doesn't.

Not like your "Celtic" brothers Wales and Scotland like the IRFU.

Think the English Pathway tends to be
Local Club
School
Club Academy U16
Club Academy U18 (usually 16 - 18)
England U18
Club Development squad (18 - 20)
Eng U20

Most common here would be:
School - 2-3 years in the Senior Cup (u18 competition, one in each province, up St. Mary's creators of Johnny Sexton)
Provincial and International u19 (a lot would play 18's too but not all)
Ireland 20's

There is a club route which we must thank for Sean O'Brien and Tadhg Furlong but most promising club players would have got snapped up by schools for their last couple years, Joey Carbery, but a rule has been brought in in Leinster anyway to restrict that.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

How come Ibitoye got dropped ? Or is he being rested ?

He was in senior England camp all week

 

[TommiG88]

He was in senior England camp all week

What's the reasoning behind no Redpath? He looked decent 2 weeks ago.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

What's the reasoning behind no Redpath? He looked decent 2 weeks ago.

On the bench for us vs Bath
No JOC, MacGinty, Leota or Jennings so needs must

 

[Maverick1987]

Looks like the decision to drop so many players is going to cost us ......

 

[bushytop]

Switched channel to watch the French Italy game, fair play to Ireland, looks like they made a real tussle of it.