U20 Six Nations

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

Not much can be read into the Wales v Ireland game since both teams were missing a chunk of their better players.

I didn't hold out much hope for this Ireland team but there were positives. Luke McGrath is going to be an outstanding player. Stuart Olding has more talent in my opinion than Paddy Jackson- the former has flair, the latter is a game manager. Gavin Thornbury could be what Leinster need- a big homegrown rounded lock. Steve Crosbie has running skills but looks more like a 12 than a 10. Tom Daly and Rory Scannell are worth persevering with.

 

[Groundhog]

I thought Scannell was class. McGrath lived up to his hype, and I agree with Crosbie, he was dangerous but not an out half, some crazy dummies being thrown.

 

[dullonien]

I thought Scannell was class. McGrath lived up to his hype, and I agree with Crosbie, he was dangerous but not an out half, some crazy dummies being thrown.

Crosbie was great in attack. Welsh defence couldn't read him at all. He also put 2-3 kick's out on the full from the kick-off and his general control was lacking.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

Lots of changes for Ireland.

15 - Robbie Henshaw (Buccaneers/ Connacht)
14 - David Panter (Corinthians/Connacht)
13 - Tom Daly (Lansdowne/Leinster)
12 - Mark Roche (Lansdowne/ Connacht)
11 - Rory Scholes (Belfast Harlequins/Ulster)
10 - Rory Scannell (Dolphin/Munster)
9 - Luke McGrath (UCD/Leinster) Captain
1 - Peter Dooley (Lansdowne/Leinster)
2 - George McGuigan (Newcastle Falcons/Exile
3 - Chris Taylor (Malone/Ulster)
4 - Gavin Thornbury (UCD/Leinster)
5 -John Donnan (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
6 - Peadar Timmins (UCD/Leinster)
7 - Ryan Murphy (Dolphin/Munster)
8 - Conor Joyce (Malone/Ulster)
Replacements
16 - John Andrew (Ballymena/Ulster)
17 - Ryan Furness (Worcester Warriors/Exile)
18 - Adam Boland (Lansdowne/ Connacht)
19 - Sean McCarthy (Shannon/Munster)
20 - Josh Van Der Flier (UCD/Leinster)
21 - John Creighton (Malone /Ulster)
22 - Eogháin Quinn (Lansdowne/ Leinster)
23 - Darren Sweetnam (UCC/Munster)

Henshaw, Panter, Roche and Dooley into the team, Furness, Boland and Quinn onto the bench. Out of the 23 go Olding, O'Meara, Crosbie, Scott and Caulfield. Don't see the point in picking Henshaw. Good to see Olding earn an Ulster call up. Of the noobs in the squad, Quinn is a flyer who scored a hat trick against England u19s last season.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

Ireland won by a point, 16-15. England were robbed. Despite being reduced to 14 men after having Ross (?) Moriarty sent off, the completely dominated up front.

For Ireland, Luke McGrath was impressive in defence and Tom Daly showed flashes in attack. There wasn't much to get excited about though.

 

[Groundhog]

Ireland won by a point, 16-15. England were robbed. Despite being reduced to 14 men after having Ross (?) Moriarty sent off, the completely dominated up front.

For Ireland, Luke McGrath was impressive in defence and Tom Daly showed flashes in attack. There wasn't much to get excited about though.

Yeah Ross. Filthy tackle. I watched one half of it, recognised it as a dud game and turned it off. That U20 side looked talented but so badly coached, making annoying frustrating mistakes everywhere.

 

[Draggs]

Ireland won by a point, 16-15. England were robbed. Despite being reduced to 14 men after having Ross (?) Moriarty sent off, the completely dominated up front.

For Ireland, Luke McGrath was impressive in defence and Tom Daly showed flashes in attack. There wasn't much to get excited about though.

Son of Welsh international Paul, nephew of Richard.

 

[Groundhog]

Son of Welsh international Paul, nephew of Richard.

Ryle Nugent accidentally said he was both of their sons. I was starting to think he was their lovechild, my god that would be a good rugby pedigree

 

[Peat]

Ryle Nugent accidentally said he was both of their sons. I was starting to think he was their lovechild, my god that would be a good rugby pedigree

On the other hand, incest isn't good for kids. Still, we'll palm off the dirtiness on him being Welsh.

I didn't see it as my feed was crap, but I'm not surprised, as this England side isn't very good and taking out Nowell, Watson, Sinckler and Sisi makes it even worse. And why LCD ahead of Morris for hooker? Absolutely baffling.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

On the other hand, incest isn't good for kids. Still, we'll palm off the dirtiness on him being Welsh.

I didn't see it as my feed was crap, but I'm not surprised, as this England side isn't very good and taking out Nowell, Watson, Sinckler and Sisi makes it even worse. And why LCD ahead of Morris for hooker? Absolutely baffling.

Morris came on in the 2nd half and made a big difference to the lineout. I was impressed with him and the flyhalf Slade.

That U20 side looked talented but so badly coached, making annoying frustrating mistakes everywhere.

I disagree with you. I think it's a poor Ireland side on paper. The likely first choice props were missing (Byrne and Dever). The 2nd rows look lightweight but are good in the lineout. The backrow is poor although Murphy hasn't been too bad. Scrum half McGrath is by far the best player. Scannell is the 3rd choice flyhalf. Roche gave his all but probably won't make it any further. Daly at outside centre showed promise. The wings were very average and Henshaw at fullback is being hyped beyond all recognition because he's playing a lot rather than because he's showing form (like Paddy Jackson).

Put Stuart Olding, Tom and Chris Farrell, Steve Crosbie, Edward and Bryan Byrne, Jamie Dever and Dan Leavy into that squad and they'll look a hell of a lot better. As is, Mike Rudduck is sorting out fringe players which will help Ireland in the long run but will make for an average at best 6 Nations showing.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

Morris came on in the 2nd half and made a big difference to the lineout. I was impressed with him and the flyhalf Slade.


I disagree with you. I think it's a poor Ireland side on paper. The likely first choice props were missing (Byrne and Dever). The 2nd rows look lightweight but are good in the lineout. The backrow is poor although Murphy hasn't been too bad. Scrum half McGrath is by far the best player. Scannell is the 3rd choice flyhalf. Roche gave his all but probably won't make it any further. Daly at outside centre showed promise. The wings were very average and Henshaw at fullback is being hyped beyond all recognition because he's playing a lot rather than because he's showing form (like Paddy Jackson).

Put Stuart Olding, Tom and Chris Farrell, Steve Crosbie, Edward and Bryan Byrne, Jamie Dever and Dan Leavy into that squad and they'll look a hell of a lot better. As is, Mike Rudduck is sorting out fringe players which will help Ireland in the long run but will make for an average at best 6 Nations showing.

Disagree what you're saying about Henshaw there. Ireland missed him a lot when he went off for ten and he returned to give the backline a bit of a spark, he also pretty much made the last tr by putting Daly through and then later on running a loop with him and sending Scholes in untouched.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

Disagree what you're saying about Henshaw there. Ireland missed him a lot when he went off for ten and he returned to give the backline a bit of a spark, he also pretty much made the last tr by putting Daly through and then later on running a loop with him and sending Scholes in untouched.

I didn't articulate what I was trying to say very well. For Connacht, Henshaw looks good collecting kicks but he hasn't offered a consistent attacking threat. He's much too fond of putting boot to ball, an Irish trait which I believe has been bred into us by Gaelic Football's popularity here. If he was 26 years old and playing as he is, he wouldn't be talked about as much as is the case. I just fail to see much spark in his game thus far. Hopefully that will change but I think people should lay off hyping him so much. I hope he becomes a star but don't see it yet.

Yes, Ireland missed him when he was off the field for 10 minutes but a team will naturally miss a player when they're reduced to 13 men (unless it's an Irish prop!). I don't see the ability in his game to create something out of nothing as I did with fellow Connacht back three players Tiernan O'Halloran and Shane Layden over the previous couple of seasons.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I didn't articulated what I was trying to say very well. For Connacht, Henshaw looks good collecting kicks but he hasn't offered a consistent attacking threat. He's much too fond of putting boot to ball, an Irish trait which I believe has been bred into us by Gaelic Football's popularity here. If he was 26 years old and playing as he is, he wouldn't be talked about as much as is the case. I just fail to see much spark in his game thus far. Hopefully that will change but I think people should lay off hyping him so much. I hope he becomes a star but don't see it yet.

Yes, Ireland missed him when he was off the field for 10 minutes but a team will naturally miss a player when they're reduced to 13 men (unless it's an Irish prop!). I don't see the ability in his game to create something out of nothing as I did with fellow Connacht back three players Tiernan O'Halloran and Shane Layden over the previous couple of seasons.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with most of that. Obviously it's impossible to determine how a player will develop but with two or three more years in Connacht and then maybe a move to play competitive HEC rugby with Munster he could become great.

 

[big ginger 8]

Don't think Henshaw will ever be that flair player but he is very solid and has the ability to make a decent amount of break.

Snoop not sure if you're aware but Bryan Byrne is fit and not being slected so obviously not really considered good enough this year.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

Heard that. I was thinking more in terms of the squad. I'd see the best team available as:
Henshaw, Quinn, Daly, C Farrell, Scholes, Olding, McGrath; E Byrne, McGuigan, Dever, Donnan/McCarthy/Sexton, Thornbury, Leavy, van der Flier, Joyce.

Then again, I'm not the coach and don't work with these players every day so I could be miles off with that suggested lineup.

 

[big ginger 8]

Sexton got kicked of the squad doubt he'll play for Leinster or Ireland again.

Just to explain his absence.

 

[DuncTheDoodle]

Wales U20s on fire, 21-6 up at half-time. The ref has been appauling and the conditions less than ideal, but some very impressive play from the Welsh side.

 

[lucky number 7]

Sexton got kicked of the squad doubt he'll play for Leinster or Ireland again.

Just to explain his absence.

Come on spill the beans young man.


I heard he's an enormous ****wit to be fair.

 

[Groundhog]

Sexton was a prick. Big Ginger can probably tell you why he was booted. Something to do with drinking I think.

 

[profitius]

I remember he caused some controversy a year or so ago at the end of an England match. In short he was mouthing off at them after Ireland won.