Tri Nations XV 2009

[Fushitsusha]

Why do I keep seeing Woodcock's name when Benn Robinson has clearly been the most dominant loosehead in the competition...

If there was to be only one player from Australia to make such a team it would be Robinson...

 

[TheBokke]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fushitsusha @ Sep 15 2009, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Why do I keep seeing Woodcock's name when Benn Robinson has clearly been the most dominant loosehead in the competition...

If there was to be only one player from Australia to make such a team it would be Robinson...[/b]

Agreed.

 

[cyRil]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Sep 15 2009, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Francois Steyn has been by far the best 15 in this tournament so far...[/b]

Agreed. How people are picking the Milky Bar Kid over him is ludicrous.
O'Connor will be outstanding, but this in this tournament, although doing a couple of quality things, his relative size and inexperience made sure he wasn't the best 15.

 

[Gavin]

1. Benn Robinson
2. Bismarck du Plessis
3. Ben Alexander
4. Bakkies Botha
5. Victor Matfield
6. Heinrich Brussouw
7. Rocky Elsom
8. Pierre Spies
9. Fourie du Preez
10. Morne Steyn
11. Bryan Habana
12. Jaque Fourie
13. Jean de Villiers
14. Sitiveni Sivivatu
15. James O'Connor

 

[Flyin Ryan]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Monkeypigeon @ Sep 14 2009, 07:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Anyway, what kind of f***ed up gryphon do you get when you mix a bok a wallaby and a kiwi?[/b]

A Chimera?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(mythology)

 

[Flux]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cyRil of Ospreylia @ Sep 16 2009, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Sep 15 2009, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Francois Steyn has been by far the best 15 in this tournament so far...[/b]

Agreed. How people are picking the Milky Bar Kid over him is ludicrous.
O'Connor will be outstanding, but this in this tournament, although doing a couple of quality things, his relative size and inexperience made sure he wasn't the best 15.
[/b][/quote]

I thought O'Connor was great in the last Springboks - Australia test and Steyn was great in the last All Blacks - Springboks test. O'Connor is a young player who has showed signs of promise and class without making the continuous dumb, and at times match turning, mistakes that usually riddle young players' games (i.e Toeava). Steyn has been around for a couple of years now and has shown what he can do without truly delivering on his promise. That is why O'Connor is in there for me, I don't know about everyone else. Plus, as valuable as Steyn was in the last match with the boot, I enjoyed watching O'Connor's general play more in the previous game.

 

[Juan VdS]

My XV would be:

15) Francois Steyn
14) Sitiveni Sivivatu (Some "weird" moments, but he's delivered)
13) Jacques Fourie (Conrad Smith would've taken his place had he not gotten injured - but Fourie was really outstanding)
12) Matt Giteau (He is a different player when he covers inside centre)
11) Bryan Habana (This guy has improved a LOT and became a very complete player)
10) Morne Steyn (Not as flashy but he is incredibly effective)

9) Fourie du Preez (Perfect. Just perfect)

8) Pierre Spies (Not so great on attack, but he showed some really good defensive skills)
7) Richie McCaw (What can I say? This guy's everywhere)
6) Juan Smith*
5) Victor Matfield*
4) Bakkies Botha*
3) Ben Alexander (Great scrummaging by this bloke)
2) Bismarck du Plessis*
1) Tony Woodcock*

* = The usual. These lads were dominant, especially Matfield and Botha.

 

[Sebastian V]

Players which i think DEFINATLEY should be in there: Bryan Habana, fourie du Preez (man of the tourny), Matt giteau (top try scorer, gr8 consistency), Victor Matfield, Ben Alexander

heres the rest of my team

15) Adam ashley-cooper (didnt play at fullback, but he is very capable at it and should def be in the team, plus o'connor n steyn had some bad moments)
14) Sitiveni Sivivatu (always a danger)
13) Jacques Fourie (If Conrad Smith didnt get injured he's prob be here)
12) Matt Giteau (Gotta be in the team and plays better at inside centre)
10) Morne Steyn (Didnt do anything wrong, gr8 kicker, not flashy but effective n carter not at his best)
11) Bryan habana (best winger in the world i think, lethal speedster, good defence with try saving tackles)

9) Fourie du Preez (as mentioned b4. Perfect)

8) Pierre Spies (Good defensive skills, performed better then the other 8's)
7) George smith or Richie Mccaw (George still effective n richie not at his best but still very good. This one is anyones for the taking with brussow not far behind either)
6) Juan Smith (maybe rocky elsom, wasnt sure on this one)
5) Victor Matfield (def needs to be here, line-out expert)
4) Bakkies Botha (strong player)
3) Ben Alexander (really showed his class, awesome scrum)
2) Bismarck du Plessis (consistent n strong)
1) Tony Woodcock (strong as usual)

 

[Randwick Kingfisher]

My Tri-Nations team..

15. Adam Ashley-Cooper (AUS) = Safe fullback with a strong run, strong on his feet going forward, runs good lines.
14. Sitiveni Sivivatu (NZL) = Safe winger, good finisher, ball player also strong on his feet going forward.
13. Jaques Fourie (SAF) = Strong robotic style runner with good passing game, runs good lanes.
12. Daniel Carter (NZL) = Makes a good 2nd 5, strong fend, ball player and good kicker.
11. Bryan Habana (SAF) = Safe winger, good finisher, very fast, good kick-chaser.
10. Morne Steyn (SAF) = Good kicker, takes good composed options, good ball player.
09. Fourie Du Preez (SAF) = Takes good options, good runner.
08. Pierre Spies (SAF) = Strong runner, strong on his feet going forward, fast.
07. Ritchie McCaw (NZL) = Good runner, ball winner, good in tackle area.
06. Rocky Elsom (AUS) = Strong runner, ball winner, good lineout option.
05. Victor Matfield (SAF) = Good lineout jumper and organizer, mobile.
04. Bakkies Botha (SAF) = Good lineout jumper, strong runner.
03. Ben Alexander (AUS) = Good scrummager.
02. Bizmark Du Plesis (SAF) = Good lineout thrower, strong runner, mobile.
01. Tony Woodcock (NZL) = Good scrummager.

16. Jimmy Cowan (NZL) = Halfback.
17. Matt Giteau (AUS) = Inside backs.
18. Francois Steyn (SAF) = Utillity back.
19. Heinrich Brussouw (SAF) = Loosefowards.
20. Brad Thorn (NZL) = No.8, lock forwards.
21. Ben Robinson (AUS) = Prop.
22. Tatafu Polota-Nau (AUS) = Hooker.

They're all great defenders.
This team against the Lions in October would be a good watch.

 

[wjd23104]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Randwick Kingfisher @ Sep 26 2009, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

My Tri-Nations team..

15. Adam Ashley-Cooper (AUS) = Safe fullback with a strong run, strong on his feet going forward, runs good lines.
14. Sitiveni Sivivatu (NZL) = Safe winger, good finisher, ball player also strong on his feet going forward.
13. Jaques Fourie (SAF) = Strong robotic style runner with good passing game, runs good lanes.
12. Daniel Carter (NZL) = Makes a good 2nd 5, strong fend, ball player and good kicker.
11. Bryan Habana (SAF) = Safe winger, good finisher, very fast, good kick-chaser.
10. Morne Steyn (SAF) = Good kicker, takes good composed options, good ball player.
09. Fourie Du Preez (SAF) = Takes good options, good runner.
08. Pierre Spies (SAF) = Strong runner, strong on his feet going forward, fast.
07. Ritchie McCaw (NZL) = Good runner, ball winner, good in tackle area.
06. Rocky Elsom (AUS) = Strong runner, ball winner, good lineout option.
05. Victor Matfield (SAF) = Good lineout jumper and organizer, mobile.
04. Bakkies Botha (SAF) = Good lineout jumper, strong runner.
03. Ben Alexander (AUS) = Good scrummager.
02. Bizmark Du Plesis (SAF) = Good lineout thrower, strong runner, mobile.
01. Tony Woodcock (NZL) = Good scrummager.

16. Jimmy Cowan (NZL) = Halfback.
17. Matt Giteau (AUS) = Inside backs.
18. Francois Steyn (SAF) = Utillity back.
19. Heinrich Brussouw (SAF) = Loosefowards.
20. Brad Thorn (NZL) = No.8, lock forwards.
21. Ben Robinson (AUS) = Prop.
22. Tatafu Polota-Nau (AUS) = Hooker.

They're all great defenders.
This team against the Lions in October would be a good watch.[/b]

The Lions are average and Brussouw should clearly be picked ahead of Elsom. The only reason the Lions didn't lose there eighth game in a row was South Africa rested there top players. Any composite team struggles because of a lack of combinations.

 

[Randwick Kingfisher]

8 losses in a row..

I didnt know that, dam thats quite a bit for a team thats been picked from a very very big list lol..

 

[Nickdnz]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wjd23104 @ Oct 2 2009, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Randwick Kingfisher @ Sep 26 2009, 06:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

My Tri-Nations team..

15. Adam Ashley-Cooper (AUS) = Safe fullback with a strong run, strong on his feet going forward, runs good lines.
14. Sitiveni Sivivatu (NZL) = Safe winger, good finisher, ball player also strong on his feet going forward.
13. Jaques Fourie (SAF) = Strong robotic style runner with good passing game, runs good lanes.
12. Daniel Carter (NZL) = Makes a good 2nd 5, strong fend, ball player and good kicker.
11. Bryan Habana (SAF) = Safe winger, good finisher, very fast, good kick-chaser.
10. Morne Steyn (SAF) = Good kicker, takes good composed options, good ball player.
09. Fourie Du Preez (SAF) = Takes good options, good runner.
08. Pierre Spies (SAF) = Strong runner, strong on his feet going forward, fast.
07. Ritchie McCaw (NZL) = Good runner, ball winner, good in tackle area.
06. Rocky Elsom (AUS) = Strong runner, ball winner, good lineout option.
05. Victor Matfield (SAF) = Good lineout jumper and organizer, mobile.
04. Bakkies Botha (SAF) = Good lineout jumper, strong runner.
03. Ben Alexander (AUS) = Good scrummager.
02. Bizmark Du Plesis (SAF) = Good lineout thrower, strong runner, mobile.
01. Tony Woodcock (NZL) = Good scrummager.

16. Jimmy Cowan (NZL) = Halfback.
17. Matt Giteau (AUS) = Inside backs.
18. Francois Steyn (SAF) = Utillity back.
19. Heinrich Brussouw (SAF) = Loosefowards.
20. Brad Thorn (NZL) = No.8, lock forwards.
21. Ben Robinson (AUS) = Prop.
22. Tatafu Polota-Nau (AUS) = Hooker.

They're all great defenders.
This team against the Lions in October would be a good watch.[/b]

The Lions are average and Brussouw should clearly be picked ahead of Elsom. The only reason the Lions didn't lose there eighth game in a row was South Africa rested there top players. Any composite team struggles because of a lack of combinations.
[/b][/quote]
Brussow is an openside flanker, Rocky Elmson is a Blind side flanker, I guess that is why he is in there instead of Brussow. I would take Mils Muliena way over Adam Ashley-Cooper...

 

[erwanseb]

1. Jean Sarkozy
2. Sarkozy, Jean
3. J. Sarko
4. JS
5. Prince Jean
6. Careless Scooter Driver
7. Son of french republic president
8. EPAD soon to be CEO
9. Abject Law Student
10. John Sarks
11. Jane Azyrkos
12. Jean Sarkozy (versatile player who can play prop and inside center)
13. Jean Sarkozy (to avoid intercepted pass between inside and outside center)
14. F** you all
15. My brother Louis

 

[Thingimubob]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Codorniou @ Oct 15 2009, 03:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

1. Jean Sarkozy
2. Sarkozy, Jean
3. J. Sarko
4. JS
5. Prince Jean
6. Careless Scooter Driver
7. Son of french republic president
8. EPAD soon to be CEO
9. Abject Law Student
10. John Sarks
11. Jane Azyrkos
12. Jean Sarkozy (versatile player who can play prop and inside center)
13. Jean Sarkozy (to avoid intercepted pass between inside and outside center)
14. F** you all
15. My brother Louis[/b]

ah no.14 is the stand out player in that team, what a class player!