Transfers 2016-2017

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Owen Williams to Glos confirmed

Didn't see that coming..........Not

Honestly been crap the last 3 weeks. Pretty sure his head went after the Munster game.

 

[j'nuh]

Didn't see that coming..........Not

Honestly been crap the last 3 weeks. Pretty sure his head went after the Munster game.

Haha, well consider it payback for Freddie.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Haha, well consider it payback for Freddie.

Davies man management didn't help him though at all.

Anyway sounds like Ford ---> Tigers now.

 

[ncurd]

Anyway sounds like Ford ---> Tigers now.

Looking likely but I wish this merry go round would bloody well end....I can't imagine its doing Ford (or Bath any good).

 

[ALJ]

Davies man management didn't help him though at all.

Yeah but that was only because Davies is a egotistical tw@t.

Pleased to get Williams tbh, although it doesn't feel like a long term solution - if he does well, he'll be off to Wales for a central contact (that he hasn't gone to Wales instead of Glocs is the only real surprise in all this).
Still, can't have it all ways I guess.

 

[stus768]

Davies man management didn't help him though at all.

Anyway sounds like Ford ---> Tigers now.

Is bath not blocking the move or is that rumour?

 

[ncurd]

Is bath not blocking the move or is that rumour?

Its all bloody rumour which is why its frustrating (as a fan).

 

[Every Time Ref]

I'd really like Ford to just go now. Hate to lose him but it's obviously happening and I'm sick of the sideshow

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Is bath not blocking the move or is that rumour?

Hence why Ford is playing so badly.

Craig apparently says no to Tigers so we will see.

 

[BPM]

Yeah but that was only because Davies is a egotistical tw@t.

Pleased to get Williams tbh, although it doesn't feel like a long term solution - if he does well, he'll be off to Wales for a central contact (that he hasn't gone to Wales instead of Glocs is the only real surprise in all this).
Still, can't have it all ways I guess.

Kind of depends on whether he wants to play at 10 or 12. Now Wales have Sam Davies to add to Biggar, Priestland and Patchell, he might struggle to make it as a 10. On the other hand, Roberts is definitely on the wane, so he could may be in with a reasonable shout of test recognition as a 12?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Williams wants to play 10 1000% sure on that.

 

[Geordie]

2023 pack
1) Genge (27)
2) Cowan Dickie (29)
3) Sink (29)
4) Itoje (28)
5) Launchbury (30)
6) Curry (25)
7) Underhill (26)
8) Vunipola (30)

gerting abit ahead of myself but still.

Don't forget Calum Chick, Englands U20 World Cup winning captain..whos already making a big impression in the Newcastle 1st XV

 

[Geordie]

Just thinking about Underhill....

I have never seen him play but he sounds full of potential. I was just thinking though he's under HUGE hype from everywhere and I hope all this doesn't hurt the lad and he's allowed to just get on with his game and progression.

Ironically in Wales hes kind of out of the spotlight from all the England fans...but at Bath he'll be under quite intensive pressure to perform with all this hype.

Itoje handled it (and was managed) well...we'll see how Underhill goes and is managed at Bath...

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Blackadder should know how to handle it (ignoring his unfortunate slip about Ford that the media seized on like the rabid, venereal-diseased pirahnas that they are)

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Tigers announce the re-signings of
Kitchener
Betham
Barrow
Evans

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Just thinking about Underhill....

I have never seen him play but he sounds full of potential. I was just thinking though he's under HUGE hype from everywhere and I hope all this doesn't hurt the lad and he's allowed to just get on with his game and progression.

Ironically in Wales hes kind of out of the spotlight from all the England fans...but at Bath he'll be under quite intensive pressure to perform with all this hype.

Itoje handled it (and was managed) well...we'll see how Underhill goes and is managed at Bath...

Yep, I like that he's experienced rugby elsewhere & has continued his education. Wish more would do likewise. I don't think many of us English fans have actually seen much of him, but what I have seen I've liked. A no nonsense kiwi ex back rower is probably the best hands he could be in as he continues to learn his craft.

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I'd say it's potentially even higher than that - Evans and Underhill are the most established, but the Currys are coming up fast and if Ludlam could make a breakthrough, he certainly has the skill set to be a contender.

Choice (in some positions) is actually one of the big challenges facing Jones. The RWC is 2 years away. By the AIs I would hope that the majority of our team will be inked in to start in Japan. It's not about selecting the best players at any time, but about choosing your men, backing them and getting the experience and cohesion that only comes with time and familiarity. Of course we want strength in depth, but it can be a double edged sword.

 

[Duck a l'Orange]

Yep, I like that he's experienced rugby elsewhere & has continued his education. Wish more would do likewise. I don't think many of us English fans have actually seen much of him, but what I have seen I've liked. A no nonsense kiwi ex back rower is probably the best hands he could be in as he continues to learn his craft.

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Choice (in some positions) is actually one of the big challenges facing Jones. The RWC is 2 years away. By the AIs I would hope that the majority of our team will be inked in to start in Japan. It's not about selecting the best players at any time, but about choosing your men, backing them and getting the experience and cohesion that only comes with time and familiarity. Of course we want strength in depth, but it can be a double edged sword.

Three years away, effectively. Yup spot on. Assuming a squad of what, 32(?) you probably want 45 players who have experience of the set up and game plan to cover all possible injuries. Anything beyond that is wasted caps.

 

[Every Time Ref]

Yep, I like that he's experienced rugby elsewhere & has continued his education. Wish more would do likewise. I don't think many of us English fans have actually seen much of him, but what I have seen I've liked. A no nonsense kiwi ex back rower is probably the best hands he could be in as he continues to learn his craft.

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Choice (in some positions) is actually one of the big challenges facing Jones. The RWC is 2 years away. By the AIs I would hope that the majority of our team will be inked in to start in Japan. It's not about selecting the best players at any time, but about choosing your men, backing them and getting the experience and cohesion that only comes with time and familiarity. Of course we want strength in depth, but it can be a double edged sword.

Not forgetting Francois Louw

 

[BPM]

Three years away, effectively. Yup spot on. Assuming a squad of what, 32(?) you probably want 45 players who have experience of the set up and game plan to cover all possible injuries. Anything beyond that is wasted caps.

I wouldn't say that choice is the issue as such. It's more about ensuring that the players that aren't going to make it to Japan are transitioned out in such a way that their successors have enough meaningful test experience to go in to the World Cup without being too callow.

We really need to be identifying the players who are going to be succeeding the likes of Robshaw and Haskell now and building their test experience over the next 2.5 years. I'm not suggesting that this is done overnight. However, considering that there are only 10 or so games per year, these guys are unlikely to be going to the World Cup with much more than 15-20 caps.

It's not just us - the same applies to any test side really.

Anyway - we're well off topic now, so I'm going to shut up.

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Kvesic to Exeter on a 3 year deal confirmed. Good signing for us.