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I know it's diplomacy but it now sticks in the throat that we are giving a state visit to these w@nkers.
It wasn't diplomacy in any shape or form, it was pure extortion by strumpet.

"Give us what we want and return we give you nothing", a standard strumpet "deal".

Even if a fair deal was made, strumpet would have reneged on it anyway. Just ask Mexico and Canada plus thousands of strumpet sub contractors what any deal with strumpet is worth.

I surprised he didn't have mush in there putting his worthless two penneth in, probably to threaten cutting off Ukraine's starlink links.

Zelensky was right to walk away, I just wish our European leaders had the guts to do so earlier this week, although in fairness to them they did correct false strumpet statements in public and on record.

Ultimately it was all very predictable.
 

Both Trump and JD Vance are such *****! Pot Kettle Black - both bullying Zelensky in front of the American media cameras. Absolutely classless. Putin will be loving it.
Just shows what happens when they try to strongarm someone with integrity.
 

I particularly like this bit

"Zelenskyy also emphasized the importance of Europe's assistance during the conflict with Russia — prompting Trump to interject and claim U.S. contributions were more significant than Europe's. But Zelenskyy pushed back and said that wasn't true"
 
It wasn't diplomacy in any shape or form, it was pure extortion by strumpet.

"Give us what we want and return we give you nothing", a standard strumpet "deal".

Even if a fair deal was made, strumpet would have reneged on it anyway. Just ask Mexico and Canada plus thousands of strumpet sub contractors what any deal with strumpet is worth.

I surprised he didn't have mush in there putting his worthless two penneth in, probably to threaten cutting off Ukraine's starlink links.

Zelensky was right to walk away, I just wish our European leaders had the guts to do so earlier this week, although in fairness to them they did correct false strumpet statements in public and on record.

Ultimately it was all very predictable.
Which part of Trump being offered a state visit wasn't diplomacy then?
 
I lost any hope for anything good around two years ago. Donbas was lasting 8 years and it became even worse since that.
I was really depressed and was crying a lot at the beginning,now don't feel anything anymore when I look at all this.. still have lots of relatives and friends in both Ukraine and Russia,and one Ukrainian relative is in a very dangerous situation.
But I'm looking at all this as if I'm a foreigner now.. rarely crying, rather feel just nothing.
 
Headline should be:
Russian asset tried to bully an independent Ukrainian.
Ukrainian stood strong and holds his head up high, Russian asset doesn't even realise that he's embarrassed himself.
 
Great week if your Putin, rifts between USA, Europe and Nato. Possibility of US pulling Ukraine support.

Wouldn't surprise me if Zelensky resigns or Trump refuses to deal with him or Ukraine till he's gone.
 
I'm still seething at how Trump and Vance treated Zalensky. Absolute asswipes. Zalensky stayed classy throughout. I know I would have absolutely lost it and had a massive shouting match in the same situation.

Just pure blackmail from the pair of them. Neither of them give a **** about peace. They just want a piece of Ukraine for USA. And to do it in front of the cameras. Hope the 77m who voted for them feel proud of themselves!
 
It does feel like there's an agenda to constructively dismiss Zelensky. Vance set the trap, he took the bait and they double teamed him. They were even having a pop at him for not wearing a suit. He's said many times that he's not wearing one while his country is at war.
 
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Which part of Trump being offered a state visit wasn't diplomacy then?
Where does that come into it, Zelensky offered a state visit?

I must have missed that.

Was that before or after he was thrown out of the white house?
 
Where does that come into it, Zelensky offered a state visit?

I must have missed that.

Was that before or after he was thrown out of the white house?
He took the **** out of Vance and offered him a tour of the front lines.
 
Where does that come into it, Zelensky offered a state visit?

I must have missed that.

Was that before or after he was thrown out of the white house?
I was referring to the UK one, I think everyone else got the point i was making.

Guessed you missed that as well then.
 

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