The Thin Blue Line

[Welsh Exile]

If you've been pinned in by armed police and you start ramming the cars trying to get out and potentially injure people I can't say I'm too surprised they opened fire.

 

[ncurd]

On the one hand the police apparently didn't know who he was when they stopped him. On the other, he appears to have been a violent criminal and all round scumbag who was skimming to shoot others. The way some talk, it's like he was a sweet little innocent angel.

I can understand the family are distraught but they seem to take no responsibility or care at all that they're son was a related violent criminal who was in the process of committing a violent crime when shot

The car was tagged as being involved in the firearms incident he was allegedly involved in they didn't know he was specifically the person at the wheel. There's a reason armed police were present in the first place.

I'm surprised the CPS bought this particular case if I'm honest.

 

[BrokenWing]

The police officer says he didn't intend to kill him. I'm not familiar with the police's rules of engagement, but in my experience if you discharge a firearm, that's exactly what you're trying to do.

 

[Saintjay]

The police officer says he didn't intend to kill him. I'm not familiar with the police's rules of engagement, but in my experience if you discharge a firearm, that's exactly what you're trying to do.

I think his comments were in relation to the shot hitting the targerts head. When in his own words he was going for the centre mass. As he was trained to do.

I'm guessing he's assuming there's a slim chance of survival being shot in the body, not so much in the head. Most Police training involves providing life saving first aid after using firearms as well.

Also if he admitted intent to kill it makes things difficult for the jury returning a manslaughter conviction.

 

[ncurd]

Yeah this was a murder trial saying you intend to kill people is usually bad.

People survive gunshot wounds all the time they're horrible but not fatal.

He's trained on the high risk he could kill all he's saying is he felt under his training he was trying to disable rather than specifically aiming the shot at the head intending the result to be death.

 

[BrokenWing]

Different when it's not an assault rifle I suppose.

 

[Saintjay]

Interestingly on the radio they said the 6/7 gang have put a bounty of £10k on the Officers head. He and his family have had to move into witness protection with the likelihood of it lasting the officers entire life.

 

[Ragey Erasmus]

Interestingly on the radio they said the 6/7 gang have put a bounty of £10k on the Officers head. He and his family have had to move into witness protection with the likelihood of it lasting the officers entire life.

Which just makes the comments of the family more ridiculous. They completely ignore what their son was like. Controversial opinion but sometimes things like this are really not tragedies...

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

There was always a lot more to this than initially presented by the family and their supporters, but this isn't go to go down well.

Manchester Airport: Charges over fight with police caught on CCTV

Two men are charged after an incident at Manchester Airport, but no officers will face charges.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Bada-Bing!]

No wonder they don't chase e-scooters.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Starmer to set out plan for more police patrols at peak times

The prime minister says he wants to ensure every community has specialist neighbourhood officers.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Saintjay]

Starmer to set out plan for more police patrols at peak times

The prime minister says he wants to ensure every community has specialist neighbourhood officers.

www.bbc.co.uk

Reinventing the wheel.

 

[Bada-Bing!]

Reinventing the wheel.

The anti social/thieves will just operate on off-peak times.

Seriously though police are already under the cosh in terms of man power, resources and time. Having a one man bobby per neighbourhood will make little dent in how our society operates now which has changed. There's already less respect and trust for police and regaining that takes a lot of time to regain after years of cutting of funding.

 

[Saintjay]

The anti social/thieves will just operate on off-peak times.

Seriously though police are already under the cosh in terms of man power, resources and time. Having a one man bobby per neighbourhood will make little dent in how our society operates now which has changed. There's already less respect and trust for police and regaining that takes a lot of time to regain after years of cutting of funding.

Pretty much. Like all big organisations they go full circle. They've known peak times for years. Nearly every big town it's Friday and Saturday nights. Where your late shifts nearly always overlap with your night shift so in effect you've two teams on during peak times.

Years ago you had police houses with an officer living / working in Silverstone for example. They then went on to community beats officers later supported by Pcso's. Then it was neighbourhood policing teams and it goes on.

 

[AlRums]

Pretty much. Like all big organisations they go full circle. They've known peak times for years. Nearly every big town it's Friday and Saturday nights. Where your late shifts nearly always overlap with your night shift so in effect you've two teams on during peak times.

Years ago you had police houses with an officer living / working in Silverstone for example. They then went on to community beats officers later supported by Pcso's. Then it was neighbourhood policing teams and it goes on.

Gone are the days when the local bobby lived in the area he served, those were the days.

Bring back The Bill