The Osprey - What is happening

[munstermuffin]

Lads I can't paste on iPhone so basically Hook and Byrne gone
Mitchell leaving too and then you have Jones, Phillips and I've even heard maybe Holah is on way too but what is going on.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Ospreys are a club marred by internal problems which are not obviously seen at the coal face.
Deeper you dig into the mine the more you will see, the structures in place are not holding the place together well.
There are gases that are unexploded and will be lit soon and there will be a catastrophic explosion.
Yet at the bottom of the mine, there seems some form of fountain of youth which may help the O's in the future.

At the moment the Ospreys are no dripping with charm, style and panache!

 

[munstermuffin]

But I don't think a mass exodus has happened like this in a ML club before especially in a World Cup period.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

But I don't think a mass exodus has happened like this in a ML club before especially in a World Cup period.

No as I said it its not as clear as it is made out on the coal face!

 

[TVH11]

As an Ospreys fan, I honestly can't see whats going on. 1 explanation i expect that they've been a team of Galactiko's (I use the term loosely), and have only won the Magners and Anglo Welsh cup. I guess some individuals feel they have underachieved (which they have hugely), and feel that under the current "situation" they won't achieve the ultimate Heineken Dream. By moving elsewhere they possibly feel they will achieve more and as an individual grow (Financially and Playing ability). Saying that there must be some serious underlying factors happening there, and no-one but the players and management are aware of what "goes down". Its a shame to see so many "big names" leave, but in one aspect at least the younger "up and coming" players will hopefully get a chance to play some more game-time and develop. Only time will tell i guess

 

[cyRil]

http://cyrilsplace.wordpress.com/20...rd-as-ospreys-prepare-to-re-launch-franchise/

 

[Logorrhea]

Will any of this bring in fans?

Thats the biggest problem from what I can see. No one wants to watch em.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

http://cyrilsplace.wordpress.com/20...rd-as-ospreys-prepare-to-re-launch-franchise/

Your in trouble when your quoting me as a source!

Will any of this bring in fans?

Thats the biggest problem from what I can see. No one wants to watch em.

If they bring in local talent then they might, going to be interesting, I do see Cuddy getting his cheque book out and getting one or two big named post World Cup players and then rest will be youth! So the chances are they might struggle for a while, personally short term they are screwed but at the mo long term looks good, there are players there all about developing them and getting the right people in. Question is will Cuddy see this, will the coaching staff see this? Will the fans accept it? Time will tell.

 

[SelimNiai]

http://cyrilsplace.wordpress.com/20...rd-as-ospreys-prepare-to-re-launch-franchise/

 

[Draggs]

Scott Johnson.

 

[profitius]

A young Ospreys player has signed for Connacht for next season. Mat Jarvis.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/rugby/2011/0214/1224289817549.html

Connacht make two signings from Wales

Rugby: Matthew Jarvis and James Loxton, who both ply their trade in Wales but are Irish qualified, have signed for Connacht and will boost Eric Elwood's backline.

Jarvis (20) signed from the Ospreys and is will join the western province next season. He has been capped at Wales under-18 level and was vice captain of the under-20 side.

Jarvis can play a number of roles along the backline, including outhalf, centre and fullback. He also qualifies for Ireland as his grandmother is from Cork.

"I am very excited at moving to Ireland and playing for Connacht," said Jarvis. "Connacht have a long history of developing exciting young talent who have gone forward to play for the national team.

"I am also looking forward to working with and learning from Eric Elwood, he was a great 10 for both Connacht and Ireland and if I can't learn and develop from Eric then I'm in the wrong job.

"My grandmother was born in Cork, I have always considered myself as 50 per cent Irish, this has now presented me with an exciting opportunity to play in Ireland and hopefully one day for Ireland."

James Loxton (21) will also join next season and can play at wing or fullback. Born in Berlin, he qualifies for Ireland through his mother who comes from Crossmolina, Co. Mayo.

He too has been capped by Wales at under-18 and under-20 level having featured during the 2009 Junior World Cup series in Japan and has been signed from the Cardiff Blues.

"I have really enjoyed my time with Cardiff Blues but once I was presented with the opportunity to play for Connacht in Ireland, it was one I couldn't refuse," said Loxton.

"Connacht have big plans for the future and I want to be part of that vision. They play and open, expansive and exciting brand of rugby which will suit my game as a wing/fullback.

Gerry Kelly, Connacht chief executive, was delighted with the new signings.

"We are delighted to announce the signing of these two very promising young players," he said. "They have both shown they are ready to make the next step in their careers having featured for Wales at youth level and their respective clubs.

"We hope that they can go on and follow in the footsteps of long-serving Exiles such as Adrian Flavin, Mike McCarthy and Michael Swift."

 

[Draggs]

I knew about Loxton a while back but Jarvis is surprising.
He is big for a standoff, 6'4", and has plenty of potential.
I can see the Scarlets and Newport becoming the two big Welsh teams soon (or am I deluded?)

 

[TRF_Cymro]

I knew about Loxton a while back but Jarvis is surprising.
He is big for a standoff, 6'4", and has plenty of potential.
I can see the Scarlets and Newport becoming the two big Welsh teams soon (or am I deluded?)

Loxton is hardly a loss for the Blues and I think the same for Jarvis for the Ospreys, the emergence of Morgan will cover that.

 

[profitius]

Would those players be good for Connacht?

 

[TVH11]

There's some serious problems going down at the Liberty. It seems to be a new player leaving every week
Not good.
There were rumours that Mils Muliana as a replacement for Byrne (coming after world cup). Bums on seats signing, but no good for our national team. Would rather see Gareth Owen and Prydie get game-time, but also would be nice to have a "tried and tested" player there (along with Barry Davies - solid solid player).

 

[coonor]

It would be great to see the Ospreys build a TEAM that involves alot of home grown players that can work together well. The problem with the Ospreys is that they have some incredible talent but they are a group of individual players and not a team. In the long run the Ospreys would become more successful by promoting young players instead of just spending money on foreign players. Its important to have that star quality but they almost have to much of it and I think they need to focus on doing more of the basics right and to achieve this they need to grow a squad not just throw one together.

 

[cyRil]

Gutted about Jarvis tbh, although he hasn't been given much of a chance.

 

[cyRil]

My house-mate just now:
'I tell you what, Connacht are going places... Or they would be if there was relegation in the Magners League.'

 

[Peat]

My house-mate just now:
'I tell you what, Connacht are going places... Or they would be if there was relegation in the Magners League.'

Mioaw!

Anyway, no longer true with Aironi. Unless you relegate two.

 

[TVH11]

Now I'm not one to over react at speculation, but what the fudgin hell is going on down at the O's. Read to today in the Western Mail (not the most reliable source i know) that that Twinkle Toes (Mr Shane Williams) may be on his way out. Ospreys yet to give him a concrete contract renewal as of yet. For me thats a silly silly move. Yes he's getting on, but he's one of the only remaining "Big name" left at the O's. For the ospreys to leave him go would be a catastrophe. He's one of them players that puts bums on seats, especially seeing as he's against the trend (very small and elusive but you don't need me to explain that). I hope that the speculation is not true (like most of the stories regarding Shane over the past years - how many times has the western mail said he's on his way to the Scarlets????). I know for a fact that he's a proper "Home boy" (and no i don't mean gangsta! lol). For him to leave the area, and move to France (likelihood if there is no renewal), it would be a huge huge decision. Ah well, time will tell, Looks like the O's are gonna have to start from scratch next season.

(All of the above was not an over reaction )