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Enjoyed but didn't think any were that great? Kind of sums up movies these days. Really don't remember being wowed by a film for years.
Last year Top Gun: Maverick, Everything Everywhere All At Once. Two very diffrent films that definitely had wow factor. At least IMO one had considerable box office success and the other critical.

I feel this topic comes up every year and I just start listing movies. And within my friendship groups I'm considered the movie snob...
 
Last year Top Gun: Maverick, Everything Everywhere All At Once. Two very diffrent films that definitely had wow factor. At least IMO one had considerable box office success and the other critical.

I feel this topic comes up every year and I just start listing movies. And within my friendship groups I'm considered the movie snob...
Maverick was good but it certainly wasn't Wow! It was a rehashing of 633 Squadron with a large dose of nostalgia. I enjoyed it but it wasn't anywhere near Trainspotting or Pulp fiction wow.
 
And neither was Everything Everywhere all at once IMO. As someone who is of Chinese ethnicity I do think it was totally overblown for what it was. I thought it was a mess. Like Hollywood were trying to make up for their discrimination through affirmative action awarding it best film, which does no favours to diversity and awarding for substance.

Ke Huy Quran basically won a best supporting Oscar for being his first main role since the Goonies and Temple of Doom.

Parasite (although a Korean film) as a far higher quality in terms of direction, storytelling and acting and totally deserved the best picture Oscar much more IMO.
 
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And neither was Everything Everywhere all at once IMO. As someone who is of Chinese ethnicity I do think it was totally overblown for what it was. I thought it was a mess.
I understand your general feelings on affirmative action. I respectfully disagree I think both performances by the leads were due the praise they got.

I do think EEAAO is incredibly marmite whilst I loved it, I definitely walked away and said yeah some people won't like that. Because it could be described as mess and jarring. I don't think it is, its incredibly slick you don't create that a cohesive narrative by being a mess. But yeah I was genuinely surprised when it emerged as an awards contender as I thought it unlikely due to the fact its very nature would put many people off.

Now if you want a film where it wowed audiences because people aren't use to that kind of film, that came out last year. Look no further than RRR which wasn't shocking from a Indian film perspective but for Western Auidences was a real shock. I thought it was great but didn't mention it for that specific reason I know it was mainly because I've not watched many films from that part of the world. (Still watch it its great fun)
 
Maverick was good but it certainly wasn't Wow! It was a rehashing of 633 Squadron with a large dose of nostalgia. I enjoyed it but it wasn't anywhere near Trainspotting or Pulp fiction wow.
Pulp Fiction is overrated Resevoir Dogs remains his best film. 😉

I also get that point but it's better film than the original Top Gun and that's usually cited as one the great 80's flicks. Of course part of that is because it builds on very flimsy narrative of the original.
 
I understand your general feelings on affirmative action. I respectfully disagree I think both performances by the leads were due the praise they got.

I do think EEAAO is incredibly marmite whilst I loved it, I definitely walked away and said yeah some people won't like that. Because it could be described as mess and jarring. I don't think it is, its incredibly slick you don't create that a cohesive narrative by being a mess. But yeah I was genuinely surprised when it emerged as an awards contender as I thought it unlikely due to the fact its very nature would put many people off.
Yeh I kind of get the concept of it. Chinese immigrant family running a laundrette and having money problems, but then has to visit the tax office and then I thought WTF? And it really lost me with all the different threads and timelines. I still stuck to it until the end.

It just wasn't my type of film anyway. I get that it was trying to merge superhero/Matrix with the story but I am from if it is going to be that then be that type of film.
 
Pulp Fiction is overrated Resevoir Dogs remains his best film. 😉

I also get that point but it's better film than the original Top Gun and that's usually cited as one the great 80's flicks. Of course part of that is because it builds on very flimsy narrative of the original.
It wasn't better than the original because the original was more well ....original. its impact on popular culture was also greater.

I go to the cinema a fair bit with the kids and the best film I watched last year (I think it was last year) was Matilda the musical. It was scary, sad and joyful, very well acted and visually great without piles of CGI. Super Mario was ok but in terms of original cinema films what is there? Everything just seems to be another super hero movie or rehash of an old brand. I mean Indiana Jones 6? WTF?
 
It wasn't better than the original because the original was more well ....original. its impact on popular culture was also greater.

I go to the cinema a fair bit with the kids and the best film I watched last year (I think it was last year) was Matilda the musical. It was scary, sad and joyful, very well acted and visually great without piles of CGI. Super Mario was ok but in terms of original cinema films what is there? Everything just seems to be another super hero movie or rehash of an old brand. I mean Indiana Jones 6? WTF?
Matilda was out last year/this year we saw it in my wife's birthday early January. I enjoyed it a lot as well.

That's over saturation of market issues and recency bias for every Top Gun in there were dozens of other shitty Steven Seagal, Jean Claude Van Damme & Chuck Norris utter tripe of films. Super hero films have just replaced those and sometimes they rise well above it (Guardians 3, Spider-Verse) but a lot of the time their just fine and sometimes they are just outright ****, yes I'm talking about you Quantumania.
 
Matilda was out last year/this year we saw it in my wife's birthday early January. I enjoyed it a lot as well.

That's over saturation of market issues and recency bias for every Top Gun in there were dozens of other shitty Steven Seagal, Jean Claude Van Damme & Chuck Norris utter tripe of films. Super hero films have just replaced those and sometimes they rise well above it (Guardians 3, Spider-Verse) but a lot of the time their just fine and sometimes they are just outright ****, yes I'm talking about you Quantumania.
I agree to a point but the budget of the shitty super hero films is way way above your average Seagal or VDM film and the super hero films are the studios premium product. The old ass kicking Kung Fu jobbies were only ever B movie plus.

I suppose I'm looking with rose tinted glasses but as a kid I had films like Breakfast club, Ferris Bullers day off, Teen wolf, Back to the future, Star Wars, Goonies. My kids have endless super hero movies which kind of blend into one and there is little to no original other mainstream content.
 
I agree to a point but the budget of the shitty super hero films is way way above your average Seagal or VDM film and the super hero films are the studios premium product. The old ass kicking Kung Fu jobbies were only ever B movie plus.

I suppose I'm looking with rose tinted glasses but as a kid I had films like Breakfast club, Ferris Bullers day off, Teen wolf, Back to the future, Star Wars, Goonies. My kids have endless super hero movies which kind of blend into one and there is little to no original other mainstream content.
I do think there's a issue, films are extremely lean for young children. One of the arguments for Mario Bros. Taking the money it it is lack of options for the youngsters. The focus os mainstream film making has been on young adult men. That isn't to say there isn't diverse choice but you have to hunt it down I love a great coming of age teen comedy. But they are few are far between and even then they are more focused towards adult audiences.

Added into the mix is the issues with 12A/PG13 ratings and how it forces film makers not to push boundaries.

Like you take The Goonies stuff like that is being made but it's Stranger Things which is playing on that nostalgia for adults rather than being for the actual kids these days.

Filmmakers are failing young people and I think it mainly economics.
 
Doesn't help having all these streaming apps available. Who is going to pay what is it now £40? for a family of 4 to go and and see one film on a consistent basis especially of the quality and content aren't being produced for young children and also appeal to their parents.

Having said that when is the next Paddington film out? Edit - apparently end of next Summer.
 
Doesn't help having all these streaming apps available
And then apps within apps!
I was thinking about watching the new Ghostbusters, thought it was on Amazon Prime, oh wait you also have to pay extra for the Paramount+ add on
 
Doesn't help having all these streaming apps available. Who is going to pay what is it now £40? for a family of 4 to go and and see one film on a consistent basis especially of the quality and content aren't being produced for young children and also appeal to their parents.

Having said that when is the next Paddington film out? Edit - apparently end of next Summer.
I'm going to disagree a bit with that. I take the kids a bit to the cinema and they really like going. Try and get them to sit down and watch a full movie on Disney or something then forget it. It isn't cheap but I don't mind taking them and it's something we all enjoy. I would happily bin off Disney, Netflix etc before I bin of taking the kids to the flicks
 
I'm going to disagree a bit with that. I take the kids a bit to the cinema and they really like going. Try and get them to sit down and watch a full movie on Disney or something then forget it. It isn't cheap but I don't mind taking them and it's something we all enjoy. I would happily bin off Disney, Netflix etc before I bin of taking the kids to the flicks
But how often do you take them? once a week, once a month as a treat? And how many other families do you see go often especially during a cost of living crisis?
 
I read an article that discussed the lack of big budget 18 cert films now. The golden ticket is 12A. 18 cert films can massively impact profit based on cutting your viewership. Studios now tend to be risk adverse.

Nearly 60% of ticket sales can be US based and that's the target audience.
 

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