Super 14 FINAL - Crusaders v Hurricanes

[kaftka]

Originally posted by Black-Monday@May 27 2006, 11:34 PM
Wow, my first ever Super 14 game. I was waiting for some open running rugby. All that seemed to be open was a can of pea soup.

Also I hope some one dumps McCaws's ass soon, he picks fights with everyone over everything. The Hurricanes fought hard and in the second half moved the ball the most. However the 'Saders were just too strong. Seriously though, why do they play these games when they know it could be weather like that?

BM

A few things... That was not a good game to watch... Mainly because you couldn't see a thing! Terrible terrible shame that the season had to end like that.

Also, McCaw doesn't pick fights. He frustrates the hell out of the opposition due to his borderline tactics at the breakdown. You constantly see Jerry Collins ****ling with him at the breakdown, along with many other players. I read in the paper that McCaw has never been yellow carded (although I was pretty sure he had been.... apparently not), he is not a dirty player. Its just frustration when you see him in little spats like that... Frustration by the opposition.

He said in the conference after the game, when asked about his little relationship he seems to have with the Hurricanes, he said something like "It's good when theres a little bit of a spat. It means I'm doing my job right." etc. He gets into the heads of the opposition.

Anyway, can't say much about the game apart from, either we start playing afternoon games, or Canterbury is never allowed to host a big game ever again. Whos with me?

 

[esoj]

how about we get someone to control the weather eh?

 

[Gay-Guy]

Super 10, 12, 14 ***les so far.

NZ 9
Aus 2
S.A 2

 

[Black-Monday]

Originally posted by esoj@May 28 2006, 12:33 AM
how about we get someone to control the weather eh?

Are you always this sarcastic?

You would have thought they would have planned a bit a head. Surely bad weather like this comes about a lot. The commentators seemed to agree, and for that surely a more suitable venue can be found for finals.

BM

 

[BigTen]

Black-Monday,

Like where? Spain?

 

[loratadine]

umm ive got to say, and ive seen alot of super 14 games this year, that the standard of games in this years hec was better than the super 14, all bar a few games.

 

[kaftka]

Originally posted by Black-Monday+May 28 2006, 12:51 AM-->

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@May 28 2006, 12:33 AM
how about we get someone to control the weather eh?

Are you always this sarcastic?

You would have thought they would have planned a bit a head. Surely bad weather like this comes about a lot. The commentators seemed to agree, and for that surely a more suitable venue can be found for finals.

BM [/b]

As you said. This was the first Super 14 match you've seen... That's also the first time I've ever seen conditions like that. Same with all of the players. Planning couldn't have prevented it as they said that the fog swooped in at about 6pm.... An hour and a half prior to kick off. They could've delayed, or postponed the match, but no doubt that would have casued many problems, and there will be a bit more debate on that to come I'm sure.

 

[esoj]

Originally posted by Black-Monday+May 28 2006, 01:51 AM-->

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@May 28 2006, 12:33 AM
how about we get someone to control the weather eh?

Are you always this sarcastic?

You would have thought they would have planned a bit a head. Surely bad weather like this comes about a lot. The commentators seemed to agree, and for that surely a more suitable venue can be found for finals.

BM [/b]

yes I am but i have had to tone it down as the welsh guys go a bit crazy on the rep system.

I don't see how you can plan for fog coming in just before kick off. that certainly does not happen too often at all. the venue was fine. unless you know of a way to magically change the weather then nothing can be done.

 

[Serge]

As everyone else said, I have never seen the fog like that at Jade that early. It was incredible. For me I really enjoyed the game. It is always fun to see something different (I've never seen anything like it, felt like we were watching an old school game of rugby).

The players and commentators put in a really good job for the conditions and even though it was not a tryfest, it was a hard fought close game such as any final. I was tied in knots for the whole second half, because even though the Crusaders were dominating they weren't scoring and the Hurricanes have the players to score a freak try against the run of play.

 

[Black-Monday]

Right, I probably wasn't in the place to comment about the weather. However I never know why they try and play four day cricket in my country in april.

Anyway, it was a different game. Now I just need a game in snow. I've played in one, but never seen one.

BM

 

[Zambaman]

Also, I don't know how much use delaying the game to today would have been, it's 9:40 here and the fog is still here and is as thick as last night. This sure is some freak fog.

 

[CeeJay]

I think they need something like giant fire trays or heaters with fans(yeah real big ones) these could evaporate the fog and get it moving, they could be wheeled off and on before the match and at half time. It may sound dumb but they need to esure that this dosent happen again, especially for the final, the game weve all been waiting for. I still cant believe I didnt get to see the S14 final, after watching the whole season. The conditions were not right for rugby, and by the sounds of it not much rugby was played.

 

[Black-Monday]

That idea is not as stupid as it sounds, the helicopter could have done the job!

It's a bit like the grass conundrum they had at the san siro(Big Italian soccer ground). They always get foggy as they are enclosed. Also they were considering a method for raising the pitch to roof level so the grass could grow in the summer.

Like big leg things.

BM

 

[Ripper]

Originally posted by Black-Monday+May 28 2006, 12:51 AM-->

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@May 28 2006, 12:33 AM
how about we get someone to control the weather eh?

Are you always this sarcastic?

You would have thought they would have planned a bit a head. Surely bad weather like this comes about a lot. The commentators seemed to agree, and for that surely a more suitable venue can be found for finals.

BM [/b]

Like what... move the game at an hours notice down the road to Otago?

And you do know how the host is decided right?

 

[Gay-Guy]

Originally posted by loratadine@May 28 2006, 01:13 AM
umm ive got to say, and ive seen alot of super 14 games this year, that the standard of games in this years hec was better than the super 14, all bar a few games.

Hard to judge two comps against each other....but I agree that S14 rugby standard ws down this year....I ardently study every aspect of Canterbury rugby and I can tell it was lacking from last year......yet so was everyone else so the Crusaders were the best of a bad crop......as they would be....

 

[Black-Monday]

I have taken a step into this SH forum, said one comment which was un wise. However you take what I said and twist it. I never said move the game, just that playing a night game in the winter can bring bad weather. So to make sure the final is the spectacle it is meant to be, either play at a ground known for the good condtions(etc millenium stadium in uk) or play at suitable time. I never said move the game.

BM

 

[EVOL]

I had my doubters but my prediction was correct

 

[Wally]

Originally posted by Gay-Guy+May 27 2006, 11:55 PM-->

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@May 27 2006, 09:21 PM
Super 14 is a dead set joke. I think it's time SANZAR hits up some salary cappin' because nobody wants to see the Crusaders keep dominating this competition, bar those who support them obviously.

Lower Salary Cap will help the Crusaders.........

Lets see..........at the moment they have those big money players :lol: ...um.....whats their names.....Ralph, Hamilton, ...and their big spend ups this year...Senio and Filipo..... [/b]

They wouldn't keep winning games if they didn't have the best players every year...

 

[Wally]

Originally posted by loratadine@May 28 2006, 01:13 AM
umm ive got to say, and ive seen alot of super 14 games this year, that the standard of games in this years hec was better than the super 14, all bar a few games.

I suppose that's why European rugby has all that dominance over us.. Now let's sit back and watch as England, Ireland and whoever else is coming down south get done by 30 points each game.

 

[sanzar]

Originally posted by Wally+May 28 2006, 12:00 PM-->

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@May 28 2006, 01:13 AM
umm ive got to say, and ive seen alot of super 14 games this year, that the standard of games in this years hec was better than the super 14, all bar a few games.

I suppose that's why European rugby has all that dominance over us.. Now let's sit back and watch as England, Ireland and whoever else is coming down south get done by 30 points each game. [/b]

I've watched a bit of the HC, and while the final and many of the big games are more of s spectacle in terms of the atmospphere (though the NSW v Qld and NSW v Brumbies games were great in terms of atmos), the actual quality wasn't really higher IMO... both seemed to have class and bad games.