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Sonny Bill Williams... Is he really a no. 12 ???

Which position best suits Sonny Bill Williams


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dan the man

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There has been alot of talk over what position Sonny Bill should be playing. Weather he's playing at 12 or 13 he's definitely got a great skill set and of course that "Star" quality.

Personally I would love to see Sonny Bill Williams playing in the No. 8 jersey... He's a beast!!! Just imagine how devastating he'd be coming off the back of the scrum.
 
Yeah - or even at blindside he could be a real trouble for oppositions..
 
12 and 8 tied this could change the direction of is carer:p
 
Being as he always running into contact, he's a typical hit-up 12.

*awaits shitstorm from butthurt fanboys*
 
Do we really need another SBW thread? There's already a fairly massive one going.
 
He'd never be a number 8, he basically doesn't have the workrate to handle hitting most rucks. Also he is still struggling learning the rules of union
 
He'd never be a number 8, he basically doesn't have the workrate to handle hitting most rucks. Also he is still struggling learning the rules of union

Even though he was an Auckland representative rugby union player growing up..

Being as he always running into contact, he's a typical hit-up 12.

*awaits shitstorm from butthurt fanboys*

Youre probably just on the windup, but i wish he would actually run into contact. Hes a big unit but he always looks to pass or draw and offload. Really committing to contact and running at players is something thats lacking from his game at the moment.
 
Nothing wrong with being a smash through 12.
Nonus made a decent career out of it (no this isn't a dig at nonu, just saying that he's known from breaking the line, not worming his way through)
There tends to be two types of 12:
The smash up one (Jamie Roberts, Nonu etc.)
and the 2nd FH (McAllister, Olly Barkley etc.)
SBW is the first, and is doing rather well at it as well.
 
Even though he was an Auckland representative rugby union player growing up..

Yes but he is still struggling on knowing when, or when not, to enter rucks etc.
 
I'm a bit ****** off a new thread was made about this. There is enough talk of SBW without every side thought involving him needing a new thread. It seems it's only a matter of time before we get threads like "What breakfast cereal is Sonny Bill?" or "Iz SBW best playa eva?". Not every side thought requires a new thread.

As it is, he should stick with 12. To be an All Black forward you have to be able to do more than just tackle. You have to have a huge work rate at the rucks, and that takes a lot of time to get right, especially for a player who's used to playing league (playing age grade is hardly the same as playing ITM Cup never mind the All Blacks. Should So'oialo be put as a fullback for the All Blacks or Nonu at hooker? They played those positions in age grade rugby). As for this "devistation" of him playing 8 and running off the back of the ruck, he's hardly been an outstanding tackle breaker. He's taken it to the line with a little bit of pace, and then consistantly offloaded. I still have no idea what people see in him, when they talk about him as "The next big thing" or "force of nature". Comparisons to Carter and McCaw are laughable. He's 6'4'' and 105kgs, which is big, but he has hardly used that frame in a way that warrents him being considered a decent line breaker. Both Lynn and Treeby, have broken the line more often, despite being considerably smaller.

He's looked talented, especially in his offloading, but to say he is over rated is being kind. To think he'd be able to make it into the All Blacks as a loose forward is obsurd, considering he'd have to be better than Kaino, McCaw, Vito, Thompson, Messam, Bourke, Braid, Lowe, Latimer, Waldrom etc, and achieve that level within a year.
 
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