Sexton vs Trinh-Duc

[iWin]

Trinh-Duc seems a better player to me. He's more consistent and seems to come up with magic more often.

 

[lucky number 7]

In Fairness I would side with Sexton ..

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

We're probably not talking about the same Sexton. The problem is that you do NOT know Trinh-Duc. Also your comment on the 6N was priceless.

We're talking about Johnatan Sexton. The guy who was in the squad that lost against France (guess what ? the opposite n10 was Trinh Duc). The guy who was in the squad that lost gainst Scotland. The guy who was in the squad that lost against Wales. The guy who was in the squad that lost against South Africa and New Zealand in November. The guy who was in the squad that lost against Italy until O'Gara took his place. The guy who has some problem with his defence skills.

You probably have no idea about how much Trinh Duc improved his tactical kicks over the last couple of years. You probably have no idea about how good Trinh Duc is when he's attacking the line or how good he is when it comes about defence. During almost each game of the 6N, Trinh showed a little bit of genius, doing one or two world class tricks. Three years ago, he wasn't able to alternate the game between forward and backs. Now he is.

You do not know Trinh Duc, because you only saw him playing once, during this year 6N, and you were ****** because he outplayed Sexton. You do not know Trinh Duc because his squad is not involved in the H cup. You do not know Trinh Duc, because until recently there were only two fly-halves in Europe, Sexton and Flood.

Trinh Duc is a world class player. I hope you're going to turn on your TV screen during the next RWC.

Trinh-Duc did not play well once under pressure in the 6N. He was in a team that couldn't beat Italy was outplayed by Flood against England(Sorry for repeating) He relied on class from Rougerie, Parra and Medard to beat Ireland. He was good against a poor Wales and Scotland and can you honestly say Trinh-Duc could play as well as Sexton did against the Saints in the HCup or England in the 6N or did you even watch them matches.
Also it wasn't Sextons fault that we lost vs S.A it was Tony Buckley and Mick O'Driscoll and who cares if Ireland lost to N.Z playing at their best. I also remember Trinh-Duc being in a French team that lost 56-14 to Australia.

Sexton is a world class player. I hope you're going to turn on your TV screen during the next RWC. (See what I did there?)

 

[Aout]

Watch some rugby we beat Scotland, lost to France only because of Parra's boot, he didn't start v Wales and defensivley frail? His defence is one of the reasons he's in the team. Also Trinh-Duc was outplayed by Toby Flood and lost to Italy playing the full game.

Any Englishman can give his thoughts about this statement please ?

About Sexton's defence skills, here is a quote from an IRISH forum :

O'Gara has been lambasted for years for his apparent poor defense but when Sexton does a fantastic impression of a turnstile a blind eye is turned to it, strange stuff indeed.

It seems that I'm not the only one who thinks that Sexton's defence is not the best one.

And don't worry for me, I'm watching rugby, and I've probably watched much more games where Sexton was playing than you watch games with Trinh Duc.

 

[Leonormous Boozer]

I'm cancelling my subscription because I'm tired of your issues! Snap!

 

[lynam1104]

We're probably not talking about the same Sexton. The problem is that you do NOT know Trinh-Duc. Also your comment on the 6N was priceless.

We're talking about Johnatan Sexton. The guy who was in the squad that lost against France (guess what ? the opposite n10 was Trinh Duc) We lost to France because Parra kicked well and D'arcy ****ed up once pretty badly. The guy who was in the squad that lost gainst Scotland Scotland's backrow was immense that day they won deservedly and from memory sexton had little to do with the loss. Also that was last years 6N when he didn't play well IMO. The guy who was in the squad that lost against Wales He didn't start and a bad decision lost us the game, still we should have come back, how is that his fault when Fitz kept on giving the ball away, it's not. The guy who was in the squad that lost against South Africa We must be chastised for losing the 2nd best team in the world. We beg your forgiveness. It's not like France would ever have their arses handed to them by SA and New Zealand I mean who doesn't beat NZ, were sorry in November. The guy who was in the squad that lost against Italy until O'Gara took his placethis doesn't make sense at all. You know that you lost to Italy right?. The guy who has some problem with his defence skills No he doesn't.

You probably have no idea about how much Trinh Duc improved his tactical kicks over the last couple of years. You probably have no idea about how good Trinh Duc is when he's attacking the line or how good he is when it comes about defence. During almost each game of the 6N, Trinh showed a little bit of genius, doing one or two world class tricks. Three years ago, he wasn't able to alternate the game between forward and backs. Now he is.


You do not know Trinh Duc, because you only saw him playing once, during this year 6N, and you were ****** because he outplayed Sexton. You do not know Trinh Duc because his squad is not involved in the H cup. You do not know Trinh Duc, because until recently there were only two fly-halves in Europe, Sexton and Flood.

Trinh Duc is a world class player. I hope you're going to turn on your TV screen during the next RWC.

I don't think you know quite what your talking about when it comes to sexton. Also I haven't seen enough of T-D to compare them, so I haven't voted.

 

[Aout]

Some of your statements are pretty funny. Anyway I guess we should let non French/non Irish people give their thoughts. Obviously yours/mine are not objective.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

About Sexton's defence skills, here is a quote from an IRISH forum :

Was it Munsterfans.com by any chance? If so you can discount any opinion on Sexton because he's hated there! Likewise, if you want a balanced opinion on Ronan O'Gara, don't go on Leinsterfans.com (don't ask me either!).

 

[lynam1104]

you'd be hard pressed to find somebody who doesn't hate/love (if your from Cork) ROG.

 

[Teh Mite]

Oh look. Guess who's made another bloody poll...

 

[Aout]

TRF_Bullitt, could you change Trinc Duc in the poll into Trinh-Duc please ?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

I've just corrected it

 

[Aout]

François is grateful for your help !

 

[Teh Mite]

TRF_Bullit, could you change Trinc Duc in the poll into Trinh-Duc please ?

Not until you change my name to TRF_Bullitt.

 

[Aout]

Done

 

[Teh Mite]

 

[dangandan]

pure quality

**** he's good. Can i revote? But seriously, if he's better than Sexton at anything it's definitely his running game and his support/offload play. The video only shows his best pieces though so can't really tell how well he controls a game. Funny enough i was at the Ireland-France game this year, i should have paid more attention to this guy.

 

[Aedaphon]

As quite possibly the only member of this forum with Vietnamese blood I'm going to go down and state right now that I'm probably really biased in this argument... :lol:

But in terms of people comparing the performances of Montpellier and Leinster, I really think you have to consider the back lines each 10 is working with. No offence meant to any Montpellier supporters but their team can not compare to Leinster's world class back line.

I know many people might disagree with me but given that Sexton has been underwhelming for Ireland compared to his performances for Leinster any accusation of Trinh-Duc cracking under pressure seem to fall a little flat.

Anyway that's just my two cents... VIET PRIDE.

 

[Logorrhea]

Dont see much between the two really but they are two very different players.

Trinh-duc has had a fantastic season for Montpellier and a reasonably solid one for the French. Sexton has had a fantastic season for Leinster especially in the HEC. Internationally its different, though a lot of that was down to the coach.

It seems that I'm not the only one who thinks that Sexton's defence is not the best one.

I think you are most definately in the minority though. Sextons defense has never been an issue. You seem to be reading what you want to read.

Obviously mine are not objective.

Bingo, neither are most posts on here. The majority of the Irish vote for the Irish player, the majority of English vote for anyone who isnt Irish, and the Welsh still vote for the Welsh player, even when there is no Welsh player in the poll. The only persons opinion worth listening to is mine, and I say they are pretty much equals.

 

[Aout]

You seem to be reading what you want to read.

I'm actually reading what is written by other people.

the majority of English vote for anyone who isnt Irish

The [West Midlands]guy sitting next to me just said : "We don't like Frenchs and we don't care about Irishs"