Scotland 2014 Six Nations Thread

[iINDOMINUSxx]

yeah i scotland main problem is they're lineout ross ford couldn't do a good throw in against south africa and 2 off south africas tries against scotland were scored from lineouts

 

[Big Ewis]

yeah i scotland main problem is they're lineout ross ford couldn't do a good throw in against south africa and 2 off south africas tries against scotland were scored from lineouts

then again that is SA's forte...lineout, mauls...I really think South Africa played exactly the game they'd have wanted ideally against Scotland in Murrayfield that afternoon in Nov., and Scotland played exactly the game they didn't want. Not saying luck has anything to do with it for SA, obviously they were the much better team, but things could have been a whole lot closer on another day. No way SA repeats a 30 point victory over Scotland. Some times things work exactly as you'd have liked, intercept tries here, opportunities taken and working for you there...
but I don't take a whole lot out of that one. Had Australia beat up Scotland badly, and then another very bad result after that to come, sure - that's a pattern. But it's not the case, and I don't think Scotland will be uncompetitive the whole tournament at all.

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

then again that is SA's forte...lineout, mauls...I really think South Africa played exactly the game they'd have wanted ideally against Scotland in Murrayfield that afternoon in Nov., and Scotland played exactly the game they didn't want. Not saying luck has anything to do with it for SA, obviously they were the much better team, but things could have been a whole lot closer on another day. No way SA repeats a 30 point victory over Scotland. Some times things work exactly as you'd have liked, intercept tries here, opportunities taken and working for you there...
but I don't take a whole lot out of that one. Had Australia beat up Scotland badly, and then another very bad result after that to come, sure - that's a pattern. But it's not the case, and I don't think Scotland will be uncompetitive the whole tournament at all.

that i got to agree with you there and i dont think scotland will be uncompetitive ever. and against australia i know people will disagree with me but in my opinion scotland deserved to beat australia that time like Folau's try poor defence from scotland and the second try yet again poor defence from scotland so if we had not made those defensive mistakes and if maitland pass to lamont was abit later then we would have won the match

 

[DuncTheDoodle]

who do you think you are talking crap like that ?

Read the first half of the post. If I say Scotland will do well, they'll do even worse than usual. It's wishful thinking. Scotland are quite good, actually. They scored at least a try in the autumn, which must be some kind of a record.

 

[Big Ewis]

that i got to agree with you there and i dont think scotland will be uncompetitive ever. and against australia i know people will disagree with me but in my opinion scotland deserved to beat australia that time like Folau's try poor defence from scotland and the second try yet again poor defence from scotland so if we had not made those defensive mistakes and if maitland pass to lamont was abit later then we would have won the match

oh I definitely watched that one closely. Definitely more competitive than the WAL AUS match that happened after that one, to end the Rugby Autumn...again, it didn't take much for Scotland to make the whole difference. Scotland have had really good games but didn't manage to win those good games in 2013. People would've been talking about Scotland had they won those (the one in S.A., the one in question against AUS...) because ppl only remember wins, but one of those strong performances is due at least in one of the five 6N matches, and I repeat I have a feeling they might have a good upset in them. But they can't be consistent enough to align big win after big win.

Also, they're literally a class above Italy. Italy has looked downright Tier 2 since last summer, just downright Tier 2, while Scotland hasn't. Italy is just a scrum right now...basically.
Scotland have quality players both back and front...I suppose if they're missing anything quite a bit it's a stronger scrum...and a good pair of centers ? Haven't seen much of de Luca and Taylor. The no.10 was in question too.
When's Visser returning again ?

 

[g6mcg]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/25817973

Sounds like Murray's nearly chopped his thumb off! He was out of the 6N anyway, but hope he recovers well!

Re: Scotland's defence - The problem is often not the defence so much, but that our other play is so poor. We cede possession very easily, and often kick and chase badly, meaning we're nearly always under defensive pressure. In those circumstances, our players get knackered, and mistakes become more likely.

 

[Big Ewis]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/25817973

Sounds like Murray's nearly chopped his thumb off! He was out of the 6N anyway, but hope he recovers well!

Re: Scotland's defence - The problem is often not the defence so much, but that our other play is so poor. We cede possession very easily, and often kick and chase badly, meaning we're nearly always under defensive pressure. In those circumstances, our players get knackered, and mistakes become more likely.

lol chopping wood ? Some of these Rugby dudes are really medieval.
And interesting comments about Scotland. I wouldn't have dissected it so finely. You get the feeling they're not far away from a really solid tournament/test series. And Visser ?

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

lol chopping wood ? Some of these Rugby dudes are really medieval.
And interesting comments about Scotland. I wouldn't have dissected it so finely. You get the feeling they're not far away from a really solid tournament/test series. And Visser ?

lol euan murray is such an idiot lol anyway im sure we will find another prob and visser is out for the entire six nations unfortunately but we have Dougie fife who is playing very well or seymour who in my opinion had a good november test last year he always seems to be at the right place at the right time to receive a pass which gives him a good run or maybe a try

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

Also, they're literally a class above Italy. Italy has looked downright Tier 2 since last summer, just downright Tier 2, while Scotland hasn't. Italy is just a scrum right now...basically. Scotland have quality players both back and front...I suppose if they're missing anything quite a bit it's a stronger scrum...and a good pair of centers ? Haven't seen much of de Luca and Taylor. The no.10 was in question too.
When's Visser returning again ?

to be fair on italy i know italy can play better than how they played in the november tests but were just not showing it. and scotland centers you must have forgotten about matt scott and the 10 as i said many time Duncan weir in my opinion is decent but we dont have an outstanding 10 which i think we need like laidlaw's a good scrum-half or even put him back at 10 and play cusiter or pygros at 9 and i think out 10 situation wouldn't be that bad and vissers coming back for the summer tests unfortunately

 

[Big Ewis]

I was a fan of Chris Cusiter. He kind of just, *woop*, disappeared from the int'l scene. Very very good no.9.

About Italy: yeh sure they 'can' play better than this. Compare Italy VS France and then Italy from June til November 2013 and you're laughing hard with your hands on your belly. It's just downright weird. Almost impossible - that these two teams are the same just some months later.
But as far as their form, consistently for the past 6 months, they're not winning a single match if not the one.

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

i thought for a while that custier has retired till i saw him coming on for scotland against south africa i would like to see laidlaw at 10 again i thought he was quite good at 10 but i like duncan weir aswell

 

[Maverick1987]

Read the first half of the post. If I say Scotland will do well, they'll do even worse than usual. It's wishful thinking. Scotland are quite good, actually. They scored at least a try in the autumn, which must be some kind of a record.

Not one ...... Whole ..... Try ?!?!? Bloody show offs

 

[Big Ewis]

Think it's a good time to have a look at this, sorry for the revival of bad memories but. Just to illustrate what I've said before about that SCO SA match:


The plays speak for themselves. Again, I'm not basing my argument on the luck factor, I'm just saying things went perfectly well for S.A. and they're not showing the good Scottish attacking intent that game in the vid, but that 28-0 score was mighty flattering for the Boks and very very ungrateful for the Scots. Just that kinda night.

My point is Scotland aren't to be taken lightly. It's like France with their 30-0 beating in test 2 NZ, June 2013. It's just not representative of the team's common capability and form.

Right now, I see Scotland with a couple of good games in their bellies and Italy struggling to keep its head above water level the whole way. But - I don't think Scotland will benefit from France and Ireland being bad in the tournament this year, and would imagine they'd finish in 5th place this year.

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

think scotland might get a 4th maybe i have no idea who will be 5th but i think scotland can get a 4th in the next six nations

 

[Dougydeluxe]

I am hoping they can finish Top 3 again.

But if they get 4th that would be a good finish. Want to see David Denton going on some big runs again. Also does any one know who (I think) Richie Vernon's switch to Center is working out?

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

I am hoping they can finish Top 3 again.

But if they get 4th that would be a good finish. Want to see David Denton going on some big runs again. Also does any one know who (I think) Richie Vernon's switch to Center is working out?

i dont think he had played yet i can tell it wouldn't work

 

[iINDOMINUSxx]

im only posting this to get this tread up and running again.

we were close to losing to italy but we cant just win by that margin

and opinions ?