[RWC2023 Bronze Final] Argentina vs England (27/10/2023)

[Saintjay]

Would fans have taken finishing 3rd before this RWC? Or just

Given the group semi-finals was a minimum. Still not sold on Borthwick who will sell it as third place, nearly a final. Rfu will swallow it hook, line and Sinckler.......

 

[IT157]

Not sure about Dan as MOTM. Sure he scored that try but also gave one away. I'd have gone Earl.

MOTM are rarely right. He had a few lineouts stolen as well.

 

[Umaga's Witness]

Funny how we would have lost less games than whoever loses tomorrow in the final.

Yeah I made a comment before the semifinals that at worst england would finish second (equal if you consider pool b had more over one teams) best in terms of win loss ratio against tier one nations. When I made that comment I forgot this game existed. With this win their win loss ratio against tier one opposition, depending on how you define tier one (did South Africa face more tier one?), could either end up first equal, or second

 

[Geordie]

Very positive going in to the 6n...progress over the world Cup.

Start bringing in an attack and 2nd is a chance in the 6n.....

 

[Jimbo]

Would fans have taken finishing 3rd before this RWC? Or just

To be honest we were never winning it, within reason I wasn't overly fussed where we finished, I did want to see some passion and some of what we had last week, as well as some attacking intent and in general intensity, with Wasps going under and England performing so poorly in terms of results and entertainment it's hard to keep any real enthusiasm in the sport.

 

[BrokenWing]

3 10s worked then.

SB: welcome to the team Felix, any observations straight off the bat?

FJ: You know the three tens? ….. FOUR tens.

SB: Go on….

 

[Geordie]

MOTM are rarely right. He had a few lineouts stolen as well.

But he'll continue to improve...22 isn't he? And at Saracens where they develop them well. There's hope

 

[Horacito]

Well, ugly match, but as in any other match, we were our own worst enemies

congrats to the english!

 

[ncurd]

SB basically said yeah that was a bit **** wasn't it.

 

[IT157]

But he'll continue to improve...22 isn't he? And at Saracens where they develop them well. There's hope

Oh I'm sure. I just don't think he deserved MOTM

 

[ncurd]

Swore I saw Underhill be given a trophy for POTM

 

[Jimbo]

Oh I'm sure. I just don't think he deserved MOTM

Very few especially in an England shirt did, I'd probably go Earl he was everywhere and often on the back foot barely went backwards, not one of his stand out performances this WC but still V good, I still find it inconceivable he has only just started getting international opportunities, Sarries have always managed international windows ok given how many players they have, I remember him pretty much single handedly pulling a reasonable deficit back against Northampton last season, I'm convinced his absence has been a huge part of Sarries poor season start.

 

[Geordie]

Oh I'm sure. I just don't think he deserved MOTM

Agree

 

[Geordie]

Future very positive...looking for the 6n.
Future is rosey...

 

[Scotty]

Honestly this WC is a very positive one for this England team. Pre WC terrible. We've won every game apart from the defending champions who we lost by 1 point. So came 3rd this WC and theres not really anyone who could say we dont deserve it.

But the most important thing os that we have seen real progress(ofcourse not in attack)but everythong else.

A very good platform to build on.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Future very positive...looking for the 6n.
Future is rosey...

I wish I had your positivity...

 

[Herman the German]

Playing with three number 10s is for England what's 7-1 on the bench is for South Africa.

 

[Herman the German]

I wish I had your positivity...

The number of his drug dealer would be sufficient at first.

 

[Grizwald]

I wish I had your positivity...

The only choice is to be positive, or whinge for the next few years.

 

[Jimbo]

Playing with three number 10s is for England what's 7-1 on the bench is for South Africa.

That **** looks to work against top opposition where as ours doesn't