Rugby Championship: South Africa - Australia (29/09/2012)

[TRF_Ezequiel]

@ heineken: Blaming Lambie for the try is ridiculous. As stormer2010 points out, Hougaard misses his tackle on Beale which puts Lambie against 2 attackers.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Aussies struggling with injuries is in part due to the amount of work on defense they were forced to do on the back foot in my somewhat ignorant opinion. I hope the Stormers take note and also adjust our game (that and bring back FLouw, Mujati and Schalk Brits!!).

While I'm side-tracking with a Stormers wishlist, bring Pienaar back to SA in a hooped jersey and sign Jantjies and Taute from the sunk Lions so that they can play Super rugby!! Pretty please, WPRU?!?

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Pienaar should move to the Sharks, so he can teach Reinach and we can send McLeod to Cape Town. Taute can go to WP, they need a proper outside center. Jantjies to compete with Lambie for the fly-half position in Durban. Having 2 top fly-halves is a must with the current format. You cannot have Lambie play 80 minutes in 18 matches in just 4 months.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

Jeesh, that's greedy LOL! Pat, Elton and at 15 you have Ludik and Viljoen! I think WP can do with some young blood at 10 and 13 in Jantjies and Taute. We are in the same boat the Bokke is/were (hopefully were) as we are stuck in a rut regarding our attacking mind set.

 

[TRF_Ezequiel]

Rumours are still going around Franco van der Merwe and Elton Jantjies are going to Durban. And stormer, it might be greedy, but I want the Sharks to be top of the table again in Super Rugby. It's been 5 years!

 

[Draggs]

Rumours are still going around Franco van der Merwe and Elton Jantjies are going to Durban. And stormer, it might be greedy, but I want the Sharks to be top of the table again in Super Rugby. It's been 5 years!

Jantjies moves to Durban would mean Lambie is a fullback.
Van der Merwe would be a decent signing, but I like our second rows that we currently have.

 

[TRF_heineken]

@ heineken: Blaming Lambie for the try is ridiculous. As stormer2010 points out, Hougaard misses his tackle on Beale which puts Lambie against 2 attackers.

Wow zeke, out of my whole post, and you again only criticize me on Lambie... This is becoming a pattern now. Lol!!

It was meant sarcastically anyways, as Lambie did come up but couldn't do anything as Beale's step made it a 3 on 1 situation...

@insane asylum, what do you mean by your post?

If any team needs a good quality outside centre it's the Bulls. The last top notch 13 we had was probably Andre Snyman... So let us have Taute

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[TRF_Ezequiel]

Hein, I agree with everything else so no need to quote the rest haha.

Draggs, we need every position double-covered.

9. Pienaar-Reinach
10.Lambie-Jantjies
11.Mvovo-Sithole
12.Whitehead-F. Steyn
13.Jordaan-Joubert
14.Pietersen-Ndungane
15.Ludik-Viljoen

 

[Draggs]

Hein, I agree with everything else so no need to quote the rest haha.

Draggs, we need every position double-covered.

9. Pienaar-Reinach
10.Lambie-Jantjies
11.Mvovo-Sithole
12.Whitehead-F. Steyn
13.Jordaan-Joubert
14.Pietersen-Ndungane
15.Ludik-Viljoen

Except in the case of outside half, when one is enough for Plum.

If the Springbok want to play at pace, bring in Reinach! He is a handful! Great boot, vision and pace.
Looks like his father:

 

[Darwin]

Good win for the Boks. While it is difficult to judge just how good the Boks performance was given the depleted nature of the Aussie side, it certainly looks as though they are heading the right direction.

Goosen looked very nervous at the start of the match, and he was probably sitting deeper in the pocket than even Morne Steyn, but as the match wore on his confidence noticeably grew and he was playing much flatter, and really got the Boks backs firing. de Villiers looked much better at 12, while Taute made a strong debut at centre - I was quite impressed with some of his defensive work too. Habana was superb on the wing, and thoroughly deserved is hat-trick. Up front I thought it was very impressive team performance. All the forwards played well in my opinion (it was great to see Bekker looking back to his best), but the standout for me was Louw. He was a valuable ball carrier, provided a beautiful pass for one of Habana's tries, had a big work-rate in defense, and was brilliant at the breakdown - hopefully Meyer decides to give him a rest next week against the AB's

As for Australia... hmmm. They were always up against it give their injuries, but just couldn't seem to get into the game. Hooper was very impressive again, but he was often the lone ranger up against 2-3 Boks forwards. Beale was actually pretty good at 10, while McCabe was solid at 12, though the backs found it had to shine when the forward pack was so comprehensively outplayed.

After watching strong performances by both the Boks and the AB's I can't wait for next weekend!

 

[Larksea]

Boks vs. All Blacks next weekend will be the game of the year

AB's clearly the best team and SA clearly the next best, home advantage to South Africa will make this game very interesting.

I don't think it matters that the AB's have the Championship and freedom cup wrapped up - the wont have a challenge like this for the rest of the year. It's going to be massive.

 

[TRF_heineken]

Boks vs. All Blacks next weekend will be the game of the year

AB's clearly the best team and SA clearly the next best, home advantage to South Africa will make this game very interesting.

I don't think it matters that the AB's have the Championship and freedom cup wrapped up - the wont have a challenge like this for the rest of the year. It's going to be massive.

Agreed.

And the daunting task for the All Blacks is that usually after a team wins so convincingly as they did, the next match is much tougher and tighter than the previous match.

Their preparation will also have to be spot on as they missed an entire day just flying back to SA. Are they here yet? And then of course the dreaded altitude factor which clearly made life even harder for the Wallabies on Saturday.

 

[Gena_ZA]

I would play Taute at fullback, he has a 10.7 on the 100m and that speed is wasted at 13. Jean showed again he is a 12 and Frans Steyn can move to 13
Give it a few years and Pat Howard - WP under 21 will be the top 13 in the country with Jan Serfontein on his inside.

Province can do with a proper 10 seeing they always have issues with injuries there and I agree that Franco will be good playing for the Sharks
If Ruan comes back I can't see him playing anywhere else that at the Sharks.
Hoping Flo will come back to WP one day, same with Schalk Brits - imagine what he would have done on Saturday

 

[Icemn]

same with Schalk Brits - imagine what he would have done on Saturday

i have always been a huge fan of Britz... could never understand why he wasn't picked for SA :? brilliant player, i rated him on par with bismark

 

[InsaneAsylum]

@insane asylum, what do you mean by your post?

taking the ****... just not used to hearing you happy for a change

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

I would play Taute at fullback, he has a 10.7 on the 100m and that speed is wasted at 13. Jean showed again he is a 12 and Frans Steyn can move to 13
Give it a few years and Pat Howard - WP under 21 will be the top 13 in the country with Jan Serfontein on his inside.

Province can do with a proper 10 seeing they always have issues with injuries there and I agree that Franco will be good playing for the Sharks
If Ruan comes back I can't see him playing anywhere else that at the Sharks.
Hoping Flo will come back to WP one day, same with Schalk Brits - imagine what he would have done on Saturday

I have the same dreams. My dream Stormers 22 for 2013 containing mostly ex-Stormers coming back and a few Lions players who are without a S15 home ATM;

1 Steven Kitshoff
2 Schalk Brits
3 Brian Mujati
4 Eben Etzebeth
5 Andries Bekker
6 Francois Louw
7 Schalk Burger
8 Duane Vermeulen
9 Ruan Pienaar
10 Elton Jantjies
11 Brian Habana
12 Jean de Villiers
13 Jaque Fourie
14 Gio Aplon
15 Jaco Taute

16 Pat Cilliers
17 Deon Fourie / Tiaan Liebenberg
18 Rynhardt Elstadt
19 Siya Kolisi
20 Nic Groom / Dewald Duvenhage
21 Peter Grant
22 Joe Pietersen / Juan de Jongh

I'd also like if we could lure Quinn Roux, JJ Engelbrecht and Handre Pollard back for depth but that won't happen.

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

I see SA is back at no.2 on the world rankings which is where we deserve to be IMO though the gap from 2 to 7 (and even 10) isn't what it used to be. NZ still with a bit of room at the top but I think we can take them on the Highveld and we have more room for improvement as well.

 

[Big Ewis]

^ agreed, deservedly so.
SA is after all, the 2nd best team in the world just in general, historically. But Australia just had too much crap to overcome this time around, and it just isn't fair really...

 

[Icemn]

did anyone notice that SA only managed to win their home games? Away from home they weak... they seem to play AUS and NZ at alltitute mostly... we will probably never see a SA vs NZ game in Cape Town that will be a home game for NZ... just like a cricket match between SA and India in durban... The boks will win on saturday, NZ will not get the record of 18 games, SA will lose all their matches for the rest year but will be able to brag about denying the AB the record...

 

[TRF_stormer2010]

^ agreed, deservedly so.
SA is after all, the 2nd best team in the world just in general, historically. But Australia just had too much crap to overcome this time around, and it just isn't fair really...

We were ahead of them in the RWC as well prior to our game and I wouldn't call that encounter fair either.

did anyone notice that SA only managed to win their home games? Away from home they weak... they seem to play AUS and NZ at alltitute mostly... we will probably never see a SA vs NZ game in Cape Town that will be a home game for NZ... just like a cricket match between SA and India in durban... The boks will win on saturday, NZ will not get the record of 18 games, SA will lose all their matches for the rest year but will be able to brag about denying the AB the record...

I wouldn't say we are weak. Certainly our game against Arg we weren't up to scratch and Argentina played out of their skins and deserved to win but in Aus and NZ we were our own worst enemy IMO and should eally have taken both those games. Best player selections, missed opportunities and lack of attacking intent were all wrong. Remember SA didn't have close to the continuity that NZ or Aus had post RWC.

I'd be very surprised if we lost all our games in Europe. I'd be happily surprised if we won all of them but you'd have to agree that it'd be against any reasonable expectation if we lost them all.