Rugby 08 Editor

[ozzy]

Hey Woosah, what kind of difficulties are involved in creating the .rdf file that makes World League reflect the changes made in the roster editor. Is it quite an involved process or just a matter of finding the name of the file to replace.
I am hoping that if you change the World League lineups to the edited roster, that the teams in Challenge mode will change also.
One other small suggestion for the roster editor is that when in team edit do you think it would be possible to bring up the name, commentary name and positions of a player on the right hand side when you click on a player where they are displayed by nationality. This would be a huge help in editing and would streamline the team editing process.
At the moment it is necessary to go from the team edit screen then search for the player in the main editor screen in order to change their name or to find if he is using a pseudonym or is a duplicate.
Not an essential feature next to skin, dob, face and height, but one that would increase the useability of the editor.

 

[woosaah]

sorry been flat out at work this week, hopefully tomorrow is a bit quieter and i can sort out the default roster and the skin dob etc.

the team edit will be sorted in the next release after this

 

[ozzy]

It's cool man, you're doing it all in your own time so no need to rush on anyone's account. I just thought I'd keep making suggestions in the runup to the next release since I have used the editor pretty extensively and have noted a few features that would make things a little easier.
The more I go through the roster, the more disgusted I am with EA's effort.

 

[woosaah]

right i will release something later on today, the "other" tab (which i am creating) will have boot style, socks, gloves and some other stuff on there. All this is untested and i need to make sure that when this stuff is on as to what it is. if that makes sense.

there are still some values and such that i dont know, but i wont deal with them until later.

It will also have a set default button which will hopefully change everything for the rdf. And hopefully put it in the right place (as long as people have set there rugby08 default folder)

then ill do some more work on the teams. ill post a link here later on for you guys.

 

[woosaah]

Right, i have done the default file and stuff, still not happy with some of the things that need testing it is just very messy code at the moment.

Gave up on that for a bit and did the suggestion of name comm name and positions when clicking on nationality.

Ill do an edit player option later on, but you can always do it by adding the player and double clicking on their name in the team selection.

I will upload what i have done, i need someone to test out the default roster, i have no idea if i have done it right so need to know if it works, it was a bit harder than what i thought. I have spent alot of time on this one.

The face option should work, and so should the boots, as for everything else its been untested and would like your input if you can test it.

cheers

http://homepages.slingshot.co.nz/~woosaah/Setup3.zip

also if you guys want a PM when i have done the latest roster for you guys to test let me know.

 

[woosaah]

I just fried my roster file with that copy fixed my problem though.

I had every player the same as the first player. That wouldnt work.

So now i have to create a new roster, so dont forget to back it up

 

[ozzy]

Hey Woosah, I'm home now so I can test out your roster file. I will give it a good spanking and get back to you on the results. Thanks for all your hard work man.

 

[woosaah]

well the link is there go for it

 

[ozzy]

Hey woosah, well just did a little preliminary testing and so far I have found that some of the face reassignments work, but not all the time. I had to try twice to get W.Murray the correct face. The first face change resulted in no change to his face at all. However his face does not change in his profile pick it remains that of a white guy. It's only when on the field that the face changes to reflect the proper face.
Skin tone appears to not be working at all. I am doubtful that those values have anything to do with skin colour. While the majority of white skinned players use the following numbers:
0
135
35
114
These numbers are also shared by brown and black skinned players.

The same goes for the brown skinned players who use mainly:
53 and 68 though a whole bunch of them use 0 as well

And the only number corresponding to black players so far is:
135, which as shown above is also a number regularly associated with white skin players.

Examples of these numbers:
Umaga = 53
Lauaki = 68
S.Tuipoluto(Tongan Player) = 35
J.Eaton = 53(He's white ingame btw)
Carter= 0
S.Betsen=135

Changing wristape to 2 also doesn't give players any wrist tape ingame.

 

[woosaah]

yeah i thought that was the case, i should have said that some of those values that i am highly doubtful if that is them or not

I am planning to redo that bit and have all the options there so it maybe eiser to figure out what they are.

some of the other values could be skin tone, i got a bit lost

also did you have a look at the team thing?

 

[ozzy]

Ok more tests.
Changing the wristtapes number makes no difference. After you save it and go to another player then go back to the player the number will have reset to it's original number before the change was made.
Socks up/down works a treat.
Changing boot styles works properly as well.

Did a few more tests trying out random numbers for skin tone but none of them make any difference. The player stays the same colour no matter what.

Yes I checked out the team edit and have to say awesome work there. It also looks very attractive and streamlines team editing no end. Did you say somewhere you were going to add a remove all button later on.
I'm worried about the player face portrait though. If it's no longer tied to the actual face assigned to the player, then that is going to suck the big one. I hope it's not so.
Oh yes I thought I should also mention I haven't extensively tested boot styles but the ones I have tested worked a treat.

 

[ozzy]

Ok further testing of the boot styles shows it has some issues with the All Blacks, trying to give Luke Mca and Rockocko the blue adidas boots doesn't work. It was the same in 06 though so no big deal. I think the ABs boots are hard coded because of Adidas copyrighting or something like that.
The set default works a treat and both the challenge mode and world league now reflect the updated roster. Great work there Woosah.

 

[woosaah]

well thats good and bad news, ill make the next test one with all the options to see what it may give you, also i think it might be time for created players. what do you think?

oh and that remove all button

 

[ozzy]

Yes I was just going to ask you what happens when you create a player. Would they be displayed in the same view as the real players or would they need a separate view ala your 06 roster editor?
It might also make it a little easier to find the value of certain variables by creating a player with certain features. Can't wait.
Oh and just in case you didn't need even more things to worry about, height and DOB are still on the todo list!!

 

[woosaah]

i am not too worried about the height and DOB they arnt that important, they dont make any difference really, and they are easy to do. I could just do them to shut you up though.

 

[ozzy]

ouch.

 

[woosaah]

hahaha

 

[ozzy]

Was fiddling around with the faces for Murray and Barritt again, still no go on their portrait which remains a blonde haired afro mofo for Barritt(black short hair) and a white guy for Murray
But this time when I went to try them out ingame, they had no heads!! It was pretty comical watching 2 headless players running around on the pitch. :blink:
Did you ever hear of something like this happening with the 06 roster.

 

[ozzy]

Ok found a major bug. When saving in the team editor it sets the team rating of that team to 90. Yikes. Not sure how it gets this number as I checked it against the Australian stats (the only side to have a rating of 90 in the game) and they do not match.
Random.

 

[woosaah]

oh thats a couple of random errors, ill check them out and see whats happening tomorrow

thanks for them