Robinson's time now coming to an end?

[ThatFellowEdwards]

For the life of me, I still cannot understand why Dan Parks is still an International rugby player. The man is a walking, talking liability.

 

[Me 1]

For the life of me, I still cannot understand why Dan Parks is still an International rugby player. The man is a walking, talking liability.

Your prayers got answered quickly then:lol:

 

[CaleyShaun]

I find this blog very interesting and also in parts, very true but i was shocked when i saw JB hint that AR could resign if Scotland have another bad 6 Nations campaign and in a way, i agree.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/johnbeattie/2012/02/time_for_the_search_for_new_ta.html.

 

[no-1-rugby-fan]

Robinson is a world class coach. Scotland have improved considerably under his stewardship, he is being let down hugely by some of the players.

 

[CaleyShaun]

I disagree with that last post.

His record is 2 wins out of his 2 or 3, 6 Nations campaigns, he got us knocked out of World Cup Group Stages for 1st time EVER. Yes, he got us up the rankings and also masterminded wins over South Africa and Australia but they could both easily have been lost.

Hadden got fired for less, he won 3 matches in one season in 6 Nations during his tenure, yet this man keeps his job for 1 win in each of 2 last, 6 Nations campaigns.

Changing backroom staff isn't going to neccessarily change results.

Even John Beattie thinks that AR will resign if we have another bad tournament (see link i posted a few posts up) and i reckon he's right, Robinson won't want to get sacked again and ruin his reputation, i reckon he could do a good job at a Premiership team, as i said, i don't dislike the man, i just think results haven't been good enough under him and he has to go, even he must understand that results determine his future.

I still think that we should go for a coach from Southern Hemisphere.

 

[Seaton]

Aye, Matt Williams did a magnificent job.

Get him signed up.

 

[Jakerbeef]

I disagree with that last post.

His record is 2 wins out of his 2 or 3, 6 Nations campaigns, he got us knocked out of World Cup Group Stages for 1st time EVER. Yes, he got us up the rankings and also masterminded wins over South Africa and Australia but they could both easily have been lost.

Hadden got fired for less, he won 3 matches in one season in 6 Nations during his tenure, yet this man keeps his job for 1 win in each of 2 last, 6 Nations campaigns.

Changing backroom staff isn't going to neccessarily change results.

How on earth did Robinson get us knocked out of the last world cup?

The players were in position to win both the Argentina and England games and choked. He doesn't teach them to choke does he? The problems in tryscoring were also very much present before he got the job. I think he's done a fantastic job (look at the bloody stats for the England game we managed to lose) and is being let down badly by the players and perhaps some of the assistant coaches.

The less said about Haddock though the better, we didn't even get the attacking stats, let alone relying on Parks kicking displays, under him.

 

[CaleyShaun]

You can both slate me as much as you like but face it, Robbo is under pressure and he knows it.

And in reply to number-1-rugby-fan, ok Williams didn't work out but i will turn your argument round slightly and say to you "look at how Gatland is doing"!

Also, to last poster, as i said, changing coaches may not possibly work out as SRU and Robbo would like, then what, just change the new ones time after time!?

 

[big ginger 8]

Gatlands doing well now but what about Ireland and many Welsh fans weren't happy with him before the world cup.

 

[Gavin]

Just admit it, Scotland don't have the player base to produce a team ranked in the top five of the world.

 

[Jakerbeef]

Admit it? I don't think anyone is even questioning it :huh:

You can both slate me as much as you like but face it, Robbo is under pressure and he knows it.

And in reply to number-1-rugby-fan, ok Williams didn't work out but i will turn your argument round slightly and say to you "look at how Gatland is doing"!

Also, to last poster, as i said, changing coaches may not possibly work out as SRU and Robbo would like, then what, just change the new ones time after time!?

Not slating you mate, just your opinion.

You do make a good point about the assistant coaches, but it is particularly baffling that Gregor Townsend can't seem to get the backs moving.

 

[Saintjay]

I think part of the worry for scotland's rugby is that winning and participation go hand in hand. Regional rugby and national rugby has been stuck in a mire for so long people have lost intererest. Kids don't want to play rugby for Scotland. They need heroes and to be honest there are very few in Scottish rugby at the moment.

If you look at the fortunes of Wales for years the nation seemed to lose interest apart from die hard fans. Now since the W/C every kid on my street would like to be Sam Warburton.

 

[Draggs]

Gatlands doing well now but what about Ireland and many Welsh fans weren't happy with him before the world cup.

Mate, we are very up and down. Win and we love him, lose and we want rid of him.

 

[Feicarsinn]

Aye, Wales are far more topsy turvy than our lot. If you look at their record in the 6N, they've won far fewer games, yet have an extra grand slam. At least they haven't had to put up with four years of bloody dirge.

 

[CaleyShaun]

There is NO WAY that Andy Robinson deserves to stay on as Scotland coach, his record is DIABOLICAL!!

SRU, do the right thing and fire Robinson, any Football Club would have sacked a manager with Robbo's record a LONG time ago!!

You can defend this arse as much as you like but imo, he ISN'T the right man for the job, now, i was willing to back him after last years 6 Nations and World Cup but only until after this year 6N comp, and then see where we are and tbh, i can see us losing ALL of our games, especially with this prick in charge :/.

Also, i don't agree with the sacking of Graeme Steadman, as i said, what difference is changing coaches going to make, well, they did it when Hadden was in charge for his final year and it made no difference at all, the buck stops with the manager, not coaches.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Gameplan isn't the problem though, especialls with Parks gone, its individual errors. Who knows what would have happened yesterday if they had got the try in the first half when they knocked on 1m out, and didn't give away two stupid yellows.

 

[Seaton]

Watching replays, I won't blame Jacobsen for knocking on. There was a sneaky foot of a rather prone Welsh player in the mix.

Just sacking people does nothing, and comparing management policies to those of football clubs hardly puts the SRU in a bad light. We could do a lot worse than Robinson, and not much better atm. I ask again, who would you replace him with?

Not that yesterday's loss was his fault. We were about equal with the Welsh 15 vs 15, and it says something that opposition teams have needed monumental f***-ups on our behalf to win in the last 4 games. In every one of those games we have had to make at most only half of the amount of tackles as our opposition (although I am not 100% sure about the Argentinian game). \begin optimism One day the players are not going to make those stupid mistakes, those final passes will go to hand, the opposition will miss those crucial tackles.

And with the way we are playing now, they will be in for a huge shock.

/end optimism

 

[welshglory]

If you actually look at it Andy Robinson was a flanker. So im assuming his main area of expertise is the breakdown. Now Scotland have looked pretty good at the breakdown to me and your back row players have flourished since being coached by him.
Heres what you need to first of all. Get rid of Gregor Townsend, how he got an international coaching job i will never know im guessing it was probably his name and reputation not coaching ability.

 

[Seaton]

Re Townsend, read into this what you will:

From the Herald:

Having hitherto worked with the back-room team that he inherited from Frank Hadden, head coach Andy Robinson yesterday confirmed that Steadman, the defence coach, has not had his contract renewed and will leave his post in May.


"Graham's seeing out his contract. That's what's happening," was his initial response to questions on the subject. However, when pressed Robinson admitted that no new deal had been offered.

At a time when it is an inability to score rather than any defensive frailty that has been the subject of most conjecture, it seemed odd that Steadman should be first to pay the price. Yet Robinson was not ready to explain the decision. "I don't think that's right for me to talk about here. I'll talk at another stage regarding that," he said.

He was similarly coy when it came to questions regarding Townsend's position. Scotland have managed just a single try – Greig Laidlaw's consolation against Wales yesterday – and the attack coach is not expected to continue. "I'm not going to discuss other people's contract details. I'm not here to do that," said Robinson.

That is an honourable position to take and he only spoke about Steadman because the news had broken elsewhere. It is now clear, though, that Robinson was only talking short-term when he said last week that he would not be changing his backroom staff.

He took the first step towards re-structuring his coaching team it when he announced last month he had appointed Scott Johnson, currently director of rugby at the Ospreys, to be his senior assistant coach. He will focus on Scotland's ailing attack.

The news of Steadman's departure was just the latest in a sequence of incidents that have undermined Scotland's RBS 6 Nations campaign, and there was a reminder of another of those in the make-up of the Wales team yesterday, as Aaron Shingler tasted victory on his Test debut.

 

[Luimneach18]

Andy Robinson isn't to blame for Scotland's problems its the players making silly errors that are to blame.