RBS 6 Nations - Scotland vs France - 26/02/2012, 15:30

[barthelemy]

Powerfull match from the French. Good moments from the scots but overall, they have been crushed by the french on impact and turn-overs. Lots of mistake from the scots due to a very strong defensive pressure from the french. I Think french should goes out off this sort of match with 20 points ahead..Sadly, they did not play too much with their head. But they are largely ahead of the scot for the physicality. Sad that we did not see too much our backline, Fofana is huge, Malzieu had also a great game.

Barnes is an awfull referee, letting play a lot but can whistle for a shitty detail at one point...It is total lottery with this guy. The second try for the scot should not have been awarded, there was ruck (2 french players were already forming the ruck above the tackled one)...but Barnes did not say ruck so he let play....

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Uh Wales already beaten Scotland we got Italy next then France.

Urgh, meant Ireland, whenever that is.
My brain's not working :lol:

 

[Peat]

Because he is contracted to and playing for the Cheetahs. Somehow I get the feeling they would have a few issues with Scotland flying him up at the start of the season.

Am fairly certain they don't have a choice and must release him for an IRB international window if picked.

 

[celticc]

Scrum needs serious work, was a stick on penalty just about every time second half. Hogg continues to look the real deal and with the age of so many key players think we will continue to improve. It probably will never be enough to seriously challenge for a ***le, but at least it is much more enjoyable to watch. Think we should avoid the wooden spoon, but will probably lose another close one to Ireland.

 

[Seaton]

Because he is contracted to and playing for the Cheetahs. Somehow I get the feeling they would have a few issues with Scotland flying him up at the start of the season.

He doesn't even have a visa yet, but either way Superugby has just started, and the other Scottish props would just as well drop dead if someone with only a few warm-ups and a competitive match starts ahead of them for the first time. (not that I think he shouldn't)

And it would be pretty dick on the Cheetahs whom have injuries at TH and may well tell WP to GTFO if he left them this early in the campaign.

 

[jack6161]

Scotland looked dangerous for a change, think they will give Ireland a real test next round! Hogg played really well.

 

[Robert Prosser]

Urgh, meant Ireland, whenever that is.
My brain's not working :lol:

Next Saturday 5pm kick off.

Edit: I lied its the Saturday after at 5pm the 10th

 

[British Lion]

Scotland looked dangerous for a change, think they will give Ireland a real test next round! Hogg played really well.

Hi All - New poster

Got to agree with that. France played well within themselves but Scotland can take a lot from that game.

Hogg I thought lived up to the hype - The Scottish version of Owen Farrell ??

 

[Feicarsinn]

Hi All - New poster

Got to agree with that. France played well within themselves but Scotland can take a lot from that game.

Hogg I thought lived up to the hype - The Scottish version of Owen Farrell ??

They're completely different types of players?

 

[Seaton]

Hmmm, if by version you mean completely opposite style of play and in different positions then yes.


However I would say you would find a better comparison in Weir.

Whom would have at least tripped Trinh-Duc with his body after getting flattened

 

[jaunard06]

How can people say that France played well ???
Guys we didn't see the same match, during the first half we were just awful, we just watched the Scots playing, how could the scottish players were always able to pass while being tackled ?
I believe France miss only 5 tackles out of almost 100 against Italy, I don't even want to see the stats on that match...
The three first times frenchs had the opportunity to put the hand on the ball, they commited 3 handling errors ! The world cup first round nightmare is back, of course PSA cannot change everything in 2 matches and not playing two weeks ago costed us a lot, but I didn't see the same hesitations on Ireland side so that's not an excuse.

We're gonna be destroyed in the three upcoming games if at least we don't improve tackling and line outs...

 

[barthelemy]

How can people say that France played well ???
Guys we didn't see the same match, during the first half we were just awful, we just watched the Scots playing, how could the scottish players were always able to pass while being tackled ?
I believe France miss only 5 tackles out of almost 100 against Italy, I don't even want to see the stats on that match...
The three first times frenchs had the opportunity to put the hand on the ball, they commited 3 handling errors ! The wolrd cup first round nightmare is back, of course PSA cannot change everything in 2 matches and not playing two weeks ago costed us a lot, but I didn't see the same hesitations on Ireland side so that's not an excuse.

We're gonna be destroyed in the three upcoming games if at least we don't improve tackling and line outs...

You are a bit negative. The lost line outs in the first half are the fault of one player : swarzewsky. Servat did not loose any balls in the second half. I did see in the 2 last matches a french team much more confident than the one before, without PSA. I think the world cup adventure has something to do with this. Said that there have been some mistake today, we do not play enough the ball, our game is still very minimalist, based on power and could be so much better with a bit of hand game and creativity. But, And I'm sorry for the scots, we were ahead of them today about all rugby basics and as I said we should have won this match by a larger margin if we would have been more patient and stop to give back silly balls to them(on lineouts for example).

I really rate the display of France today in terms of defense and pressure put on the scots...Most of the handling mistake made by the scots during the 2nd half was mainly because of the french pressurising them with a very agressive defense. It is not has sexy as some momentum scots had during the match but it is part of rugby and at this level, France has played a very good match. even if we could have something to say about some missed tackles...

Our main problem is that we still do not know what to do with the ball when we have it sometimes...

 

[Seaton]

I could be mistaken, but I think Scotland missed more tackles in this match than they did in the England and Wales matches combined?

 

[Mr.cyclopede]

Well, even if we consider that the team has respected the PSA game plan, and waited for the Scottisch tempest to calm down, a lot of job to do before welcoming Ireland:
Too many missed tackles and balls stolen (Hari and Swarsevski)
TD much less efficient and game orientation but decisive on Fofana's try

++ Dusautoir is everywhere
+ Malzieu bad placement cost us the first try but still decisive in attack (unless he has three opponents on him, he's still standing up and keep the ball)
+ Maestri

-- Swarzevski loosing balls and pizzaiolo on line outs (We should see Servat starting vs Ireland)

 

[jaunard06]

You are a bit negative. The lost line outs in the first half are the fault of one player : swarzewsky. Servat did not loose any balls in the second half. I did see in the 2 last matches a french team much more confident than the one before, without PSA. I think the world cup adventure has something to do with this. Said that there have been some mistake today, we do not play enough the ball, our game is still very minimalist, based on power and could be so much better with a bit of hand game and creativity. But, And I'm sorry for the scots, we were ahead of them today about all rugby basics and as I said we should have won this match by a larger margin if we would have been more patient and stop to give back silly balls to them(on lineouts for example).

I really rate the display of France today in terms of defense and pressure put on the scots...Most of the handling mistake made by the scots during the 2nd half was mainly because of the french pressurising them with a very agressive defense. It is not has sexy as some momentum scots had during the match but it is part of rugby and at this level, France has played a very good match. even if we could have something to say about some missed tackles...

Our main problem is that we still do not know what to do with the ball when we have it sometimes...

I'm no "negative". We missed 10% of ours tackles (14 out of 142) which is twice more than previous match, but even worse our ruck clearance reaches only 60% !
Those two statistics will cost us a lot against Ireland, England, and especially Wales.

We've lost too many balls on the ground or on direct confrontation woth another player (Hari).
Scotland are very efficient in that area of play but are less efficient I believe than the three remaining teams.

Actually nothing has changed versus Lievremont's era, I was a little bit optimistic after Italy but now I have to stick to reality once again, France always suffer the same diseases: inconsistency, lack of aggressivity in the rucks and thus slow balls for the backs that have to create individual performances to go through the line...

 

[jaunard06]

Still, big tribute to Scotland anyway, if we were so average it is mainly due to their excellent display; it's good to see Scotland improving as well in H cup than in VI Nations...so many young and talented players in that team, Hogg is just excellent !

 

[Big Ewis]

I'm no "negative". We missed 10% of ours tackles (14 out of 142) which is twice more than previous match, but even worse our ruck clearance reaches only 60% !
Those two statistics will cost us a lot against Ireland, England, and especially Wales.

We've lost too many balls on the ground or on direct confrontation woth another player (Hari).
Scotland are very efficient in that area of play but are less efficient I believe than the three remaining teams.

Actually nothing has changed versus Lievremont's era, I was a little bit optimistic after Italy but now I have to stick to reality once again, France always suffer the same diseases: inconsistency, lack of aggressivity in the rucks and thus slow balls for the backs that have to create individual performances to go through the line...

lol it's hilarious to talk to a french guy in english, but hey...
Yeah man, this inconsistency is so disappointing ! Scotland hadn't scored a try against us since 2006, can you imagine that ?! That's a ridiculous record ! And they come in and score one in like 10min...
I must say Scotland were very inspired and creative and quick on offense...something we hadn't seen in the last two meetings. They have clearly improved up til this point.
I'm glad we got this over with and can focus on Ireland...not a terrific game, but not alarming.

 

[Seaton]

lol it's hilarious to talk to a french guy in english, but hey...
Yeah man, this inconsistency is so disappointing ! Scotland hadn't scored a try against us since 2006, can you imagine that ?! That's a ridiculous record ! And they come in and score one in like 10min...
I must say Scotland were very inspired and creative and quick on offense...something we hadn't seen in the last two meetings. They have clearly improved up til this point.
I'm glad we got this over with and can focus on Ireland...not a terrific game, but not alarming.

Eh? Did the team not score three in last year's Six Nations?

 

[barthelemy]

Actually nothing has changed versus Lievremont's era, I was a little bit optimistic after Italy but now I have to stick to reality once again, France always suffer the same diseases: inconsistency, lack of aggressivity in the rucks and thus slow balls for the backs that have to create individual performances to go through the line...

Yeah sounds like we have not seen the same match. It is nice to be nice with our scottish friends but it is nice also to be realistic. We have crushed the scottish on most of the area of the games and they are lucky to leave this match so close to the french on the scoreboard. Yeah , there have been some missed tackle (but apart from that there have been some impressive defensive momentums from the french, where the team was advancing and scotland was clearly without any solution !) or missed passes/lost balls (the scots have not been better on this, look at the second half). So yeah the scots had some good moments with the ball in hand and bravo to them but it does not seem to me that France has played as **** as you seem to say.

Anyway, there is clearly a mental difference in this team that the one before the world cup, they are stronger without any doubt. I do not know if it is Saint Andre, I think it is more the world cup adventures they have lived together that created a strongest mental.

 

[Seaton]

French were dominating in the rucks, at times it looked as if our players couldn't be bothered they were shoved off with such ease.

Numbers at and contesting most rucks reaped rewards for the French.