PEDs in rugby

[TRF_Olyy]

Tuohy tested positive for ligandrol which is a SARM

Fair play, I thought it was HGH but only skim read an article before
Seems a waste - why go SARMs when you can just go balls to the wall (unless his retirement was actually gonna be a sabbatical while he healed)

 

[die_mole]

Seems a waste - why go SARMs when you can just go balls to the wall (unless his retirement was actually gonna be a sabbatical while he healed)

that's what I'm saying. it just seems high risk low reward compared to what he could have done.

 

[die_mole]

Pro D2 hooker banned by the French Anti-Doping Agency - report

Colomiers hooker Youssef Saaidia has been temporarily suspended by the French Anti-Doping Agency ahead of the new 2022/23 Pro D2 season.

www.rugbypass.com

Clearly it's just amateurs and second tier pros doping.

#keeprugbyclean

 

[die_mole]

Three Chilean internationals facing doping charges - Americas Rugby News

Three Chilean players have tested positive for banned substances and are now facing sanctions, accor

www.americasrugbynews.com

Seems Chile has more stringent testing than any other nation.

 

[Bruce_ma gooshvili]

Three Chilean internationals facing doping charges - Americas Rugby News

Three Chilean players have tested positive for banned substances and are now facing sanctions, accor

www.americasrugbynews.com

Seems Chile has more stringent testing than any other nation.

It must be roughly 15-20% of their professional players have tested positive in the past year. They are unusually physically developed for Tier2 players in my opinion (at least for a nation who only recently joined the ranks of professionalism). They kind of went from flabby amateurs to convincing looking professionals overnight (whereas that as taken Uruguay about 10 years), but the same could equally be said for their skillset and behind the scenes they have been outstanding. So maybe improved conditioning went hand in hand with improved skill development and we are seeing and apples from the fringe of the national side.

Plus the Chilean appearance is nothing out of the ordinary compared to Tier1 and some more established Tier2 players. It does make me wonder how commonplace PEDs are in Tier1 and how little testing may be done. But I may be being overly cynical.

 

[die_mole]

It must be roughly 15-20% of their professional players have tested positive in the past year. They are unusually physically developed for Tier2 players in my opinion (at least for a nation who only recently joined the ranks of professionalism). They kind of went from flabby amateurs to convincing looking professionals overnight (whereas that as taken Uruguay about 10 years), but the same could equally be said for their skillset and behind the scenes they have been outstanding. So maybe improved conditioning went hand in hand with improved skill development and we are seeing and apples from the fringe of the national side.

Plus the Chilean appearance is nothing out of the ordinary compared to Tier1 and some more established Tier2 players. It does make me wonder how commonplace PEDs are in Tier1 and how little testing may be done. But I may be being overly cynical.

I think a lot has to go from being part time to full time. I think that feeling (on this board at least) is that steroids are rampant in the sport. I think the issue is that in Chile they went from being untested amateurs to professionals under WADA protocol. A bit like when amateurs get popped for doping at low level cycling races.

 

[die_mole]

Elton Jantjies: World Cup winner handed four-year ban for doping

Elton Jantjies, who won the 2019 World Cup with South Africa, is given a four-year ban from the sport having tested positive for Clenbuterol.

www.bbc.co.uk

I thought he was the one sticking it in the team nutritionist not the other way around

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Clen as well,
Just wanted to look extra shredded in the team photos - let the man live

 

[Tooting Carmen]

Gareth Davies is the one who looks the most suspicious to me. His muscles are well out of proportion to his natural physique:

 

[Pieter Steph du Teague]

Gareth Davies is the one who looks the most suspicious to me. His muscles are well out of proportion to his natural physique:
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I mean we know that the WRU gave PEDs to Rhys Webb. Don't know why they wouldn't give them to Gareth Davies too.

 

[Tooting Carmen]

I mean we know that the WRU gave PEDs to Rhys Webb. Don't know why they wouldn't give them to Gareth Davies too.

And Webb certainly looks less OTT than Davies.

 

[Tooting Carmen]

Interestingly, one other industry where the men have become suspiciously musclebound in recent years is Bollywood. I wonder what goes on there?

 

[McTallshort]

Elton Jantjies: World Cup winner handed four-year ban for doping

Elton Jantjies, who won the 2019 World Cup with South Africa, is given a four-year ban from the sport having tested positive for Clenbuterol.

www.bbc.co.uk

I thought he was the one sticking it in the team nutritionist not the other way around

Shocked a Bok has been busted....no I am

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Bristol Bears player Chris Vui fighting to clear name after suspension for positive drugs test

Exclusive: Forward returned positive test before last year’s World Cup and has not played for club since

www.telegraph.co.uk

Classic tainted supplement defence

 

[Don't Skip Leg Day]

Bristol Bears player Chris Vui fighting to clear name after suspension for positive drugs test

Exclusive: Forward returned positive test before last year’s World Cup and has not played for club since

www.telegraph.co.uk

Classic tainted supplement defence

I can't click on that link doesn't work for some reason.

In his defence though, I often find steroids have accidentally been added to my protein powder. Must happen all time

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Looks like every article about it has been binned - just googled and everything goes to an error page,
Wonder if lawyers got involved if he's still actively fighting it

 

[big ginger 8]

It's no wonder every player blames a tainted supplement and while it is very easy to be sceptical it has been proven to be correct in the past. It's why every pro athlete should keep a sample of every supplement they use.

 

[dirty harry]

It's no wonder every player blames a tainted supplement and while it is very easy to be sceptical it has been proven to be correct in the past. It's why every pro athlete should keep a sample of every supplement they use.

Why would they lol theyll lose the ability to defend themselves with it if they have the evidence to disprove their argument hahaha

 

[McTallshort]

Still find it amazing that people get banned for 4 years in Rugby but only 6 months to a year in boxing

 

[big ginger 8]

Why would they lol theyll lose the ability to defend themselves with it if they have the evidence to disprove their argument hahaha

Because without evidence it doesn't work as a defence against the actual anti-doping agencies and it clearly doesn't work in the court if public opinion.