j'nuh
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The issue with epithets directed towards minorities is that it creates a sense of otherness in the minority; a sense of not belonging.OK, so next time anyone refers a MALE rugby player using a gendered epithet such as "knobhead", "d¡ckhead" or "w@nker", I will expect you to call them to account for being insensitive to that player's gender.
It changes dependent on place and context in my opinion. I would be bothered by an insult directed at my whiteness more so if I lived in African and Asian countries, than I would in European countries. It creates a sense of unease that I am being singled out for my differences. It's something minorities have to be extremely careful of, because throughout history minorities have faced persecution because of their minority status in a way that e.g. white people in predominantly white countries, or men in countries in which power is held predominantly by men, have not.
Besides, yes, I do have a problem with people calling rugby players (or anyone) these terms. Not for discriminatory reasons, but because people deserve a base level of respect.
Sorry, I should have been clearer. The term threat has multiple definitions aside from an intent to apply violence etc.You will now provide evidence that I threatened someone. If you can't provide such evidence, you will withdraw that allegation and apologise.
I meant: threat - the possibility that something bad or harmful could happen
And by sexualised I meant containing sexual content. Reading it, I can appreciate how it can be taken for something a lot worse. The spirit I intended it in is much milder. And in my defence, I had just woken up and was in a rush for work.
So I apologise for sloppiness and ambiguity. But the message remains: I don't think that the language is appropriate for a family-friendly forum (especially given that, not too long ago, we were told to reduce on the swearing).
How so? You suggested that it would take, in a democracy, 50%+ of the population to be offended by something in order for the offence to be heard.No, that is your strawman
By definition, minority groups cannot possibly form more than 50% of the population in a way that majority groups can. Under democracy, white people can band together to stop epithets directed towards white people in a way that black people cannot (assuming a white-majority country).
So my point stands.
I don't disagree with you whatsoever here. Whilst I believe some people are well-meaning in their intent to defend others, often it can become patronising and self-fulfilling if someone - not of the minority status - practically makes the dialogue about themselves. It's cringy when people campaign on behalf of a group who has no interest in the campaign. Minority groups have called this out before.The first step in protecting a minority is to ask them if they want to be protected.
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I am completely deaf in one ear, and have severe partial deafness in the other (causing me to have severe tinnitus...24/7/365) This makes me very grumpy sometimes and I have become sick to death of well-meaning PC w@nkers belittling my disability be referring to me as "hearing impaired" or "aurally challenged" or "hard of hearing". I find such PC terms insulting and demeaning. I am the one affected by this, I am "deaf" d e a f!, not any of those other weasel word terms; its my business and no-one else's unless I ask them to make it so.
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I apply the same philosophy in the team name situation. If Native Americans have a problem with the name "Washington Redskins" then let them form a political lobby group to arrange the holding of a referendum on the issue and decide of there is enough support among the Native American population to put pressure on the NFL and on Washington's owners and management to change it. If you are not a Native American, it is none of your business unless they ASK you to make it your business.
I think that a movement dedicated to a particular group has form the dialogue. Men should not become feminists, for instance, lest they make the movement about themselves. It's generally well-meaning, but often misplaced, distracting and unwelcome. But that doesn't mean that men cannot interact with feminism, be allies of feminism, take interest in the discourse presented by feminism, reflect on and change themselves and their shortcomings when contrasted to feminism. It doesn't mean men cannot call out people when they are being sexist towards women.
Which leads me onto...
I think it takes a lack of imagination not to understand why anyone would want to complain on others behalf. It's innately human to have some degree of empathy for other people. I want BLM to succeed because I want black people to succeed. I want feminism to succeed because I want women to succeed. People should take an interest in the welfare of others. People should get offended on the behalf of others, as long as those people welcome the offence.This is the issue I have with Political Correctness. It has become a bandwagon for Social Justice Warriors and loony left-wing Liberals to become offended on other people's behalf. Those who are actually offended are the only people who have a legitimate right to complain about the offense.