NZ article attacking Celtic nations

[TRF_Olyy]

Nacewa was tricked? How?
He chose to play for Fiji, it's not as if they pretended they were the All Blacks then someone told him afterwards that they weren't
He made his bed and is now lying in it.

 

[profitius]

The tri nations teams also wanted money for Argentina to be allowed play in their competition while Italy were welcomed into the 6 nations. Also the Celtic teams welcomed Italian clubs into the Celtic league.

I think a big problem in rugby is the top teams do little to spread the game. The game is growing in some countries like Russia, Spain, Portugal, Belgium and Georgia etc but you won't see many teams going there to play them. Also there should be relegation from the 6 nations. Spice it up a bit.

 

[Irishflanker]

This article doesn't really elaborate upon it but he has tried to switch to New Zealand
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/welsh/13662465.stm
Apparently the Fijian union got lawyers in to tell him that he could still play for New Zealand so he went to the world cup, a bit naive really but he has tried to reverse his eligibility.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Well then he's daft - Can't blame Fiji for him not knowing the rules, they're there in black and white

 

[TRF_Olyy]

This is the first I've heard of any of this to be honest, I knew he wanted to get his Fiji appearance struck off, but didn't know it was claimed they tricked him :S

 

[Irishflanker]

If you dredge up old news articles and/or ask people who know him it transpires that he was 'tricked', although he seems to be careful not to say so in interviews and even appears to have reconsidered playing for Fiji again, although he declined joining up with the squad.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

So he's a bit thick then?

 

[TrueSlawter]

Let me get this straight they say northern media is ingnorant over stating about NZ "poaching" (" was there so I dont get *****ed at about how NZ doesnt poach players) players yet they put this BS up and state they aint ignorant? It would be down right wrong for players capped by another nation to play for another as whats the point having a nationality otherwise.. why dont we have a internation transfer market where the best players goto the highest paying nation if they wanna do that (bit far fetched) but tbh If someone is dual nationality they pick who they wanna play for and thats it no changes.

(Sorry if this has been said i nthe thread before I havent read it all yet..)

 

[staph.glorious]

Let me get this straight they say northern media is ingnorant over stating about NZ "poaching" (" was there so I dont get *****ed at about how NZ doesnt poach players) players yet they put this BS up and state they aint ignorant? It would be down right wrong for players capped by another nation to play for another as whats the point having a nationality otherwise.. why dont we have a internation transfer market where the best players goto the highest paying nation if they wanna do that (bit far fetched) but tbh If someone is dual nationality they pick who they wanna play for and thats it no changes.

(Sorry if this has been said i nthe thread before I havent read it all yet..)

So if someone is a twenty-year old New Zealander earning a Test cap, they're a New Zealander for life in rugby terms? Ah yes, the essence of 'nationality'(!!)

Again, I suggest they could extend the period for eligibility-by-Residence so that if you commit an about-face and wish to represent another nation, you spend most of your rugby career working for it. In most cases, it won't make a heap of difference, but for those who are desperate to play for another country, they're given a lifeline.

Transfer markets are entirely far-fetched. Best not to be flippant if you value your own opinion.

 

[smartcooky]

I guess there is a lesson in all for this for the NH posters here, one that most Kiwi posters have learned a long time ago, and that is, treat anything you read in the NZ Herald with suspicion. This is especially if its about Rugby, and appears in the Sunday edition. Its basically a gutter press Tabloid paper in a Broadsheet format

The NZ Herald (in reality the Auckland Herald) is not past deliberately fudging and misrepresenting figures and statistics to make a story; their recent supposed "exposé" on the cost of running the Rugby World Cup is a great example of this, where they clearly make demonstrably false statements in order to sell papers. It is clear from the thread starter article, from the way they lump in Wales, Ireland and Scotland in the same breath as English Clubs, that the writer does not understand that England is not Britain.

The Herald's rugby writers spend more time interviewing their own laptops than talking to any real people, and there are quite a number of NZ rugby players & personalities who simply won't talk to anyone from the Herald. Their rugby writers are mostly a bunch of muck-raking stirrers who seem hellbent on criticising the NZRU and RNZ2011 at every turn.

So for all you NH posters out there, if you read something in the NZ Herald, it would pay to verify it independently in a reliable paper such as the Dominion Post or the Otago Daily Times before taking it as having any truth at all.

 

[TrueSlawter]

So if someone is a twenty-year old New Zealander earning a Test cap, they're a New Zealander for life in rugby terms? Ah yes, the essence of 'nationality'(!!)

Again, I suggest they could extend the period for eligibility-by-Residence so that if you commit an about-face and wish to represent another nation, you spend most of your rugby career working for it. In most cases, it won't make a heap of difference, but for those who are desperate to play for another country, they're given a lifeline.

Transfer markets are entirely far-fetched. Best not to be flippant if you value your own opinion.

I know the transfer market thing was stupidly farfetched Either way.. the whole they must work for it would be good.. but length would need to be sorted mabey even depending on caps the player has? under 10 caps say is less time needed than someone with 20-30 caps etc.

 

[staph.glorious]

I know the transfer market thing was stupidly farfetched Either way.. the whole they must work for it would be good.. but length would need to be sorted mabey even depending on caps the player has? under 10 caps say is less time needed than someone with 20-30 caps etc.

You do know that the number of Test caps one aims to achieve is limited by fixtures, which in itself is limited by time, right?

 

[MartinSteve]

It is damn sure man that NZ has more attraction towards Irish player rather than their own.They are just exploiting talent.
looking for franchises

 

[nickdnz]

It is damn sure man that NZ has more attraction towards Irish player rather than their own.They are just exploiting talent.

...huh?