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Plenty to be done before Nonu a Hurricane



Conrad Smith has confirmed the New Zealand Rugby Union approached the Hurricanes about taking in Ma'a Nonu but admits his All Blacks midfield partner must make some adjustments before being welcomed home.
Nonu's future has been the subject of intense speculation. Of the five New Zealand franchises, the Hurricanes are the only team not to rule out having Nonu in their squad next year.
Nonu-gate is a hugely complicated, controversial affair after Hurricanes coach Mark Hammett ejected the world class second five-eighth from his team two years ago. The NZRU are reluctant to comment publicly on the situation but it is clear moves have made behind closed doors to retain their prized asset.
Since leaving the capital, Nonu has played for the Blues and Highlanders but, because of his off-field persona, he is seen as difficult to manage.
Hurricanes captain Smith today confirmed he discussed Nonu's return with Hammett and that the NZRU made attempts to build bridges between the No 12 and his former coach. This is a slow burning process, though Nonu and Hammett shared a coffee last week.
"Mark Hammett said the NZRU had approached them [Hurricanes]. He wanted to get my opinion. It was literally a two minute conversation," Smith said as the All Blacks assembled for a two-day camp in Auckland.
"I anticipate I will be asked about it in the next few weeks. It's being dealt with at a higher level and I can honestly say I don't know what stage it's at.
"In terms of playing ability I'd love to have him there, but I appreciate there is a bigger picture and a lot of other things to go through."
Asked if he thought Nonu could slot back in to the Hurricanes' environment after falling out with Hammett, after a deep breath and long pause Smith hinted he was in favour of Nonu's return.
"I don't know. That's obviously why it's taken as long as it has and there's a bit to go through," he said. "I don't know where it's going to end up. There'd have to be a bit of shifting on his account. I'm always an optimist. I think that can be done.
"It's pretty unique and I don't think it will happen a lot. I'm optimistic it will come to a conclusion there's just a few things that have to be worked through."
All Blacks coach Steve Hansen made it clear he would not tread on Hammett's toes and would, therefore, stay out of the situation.


Hansen spoke with Nonu last night and sensed he was relaxed, despite being without a home next year.
"He's in great shape mentally," Hansen said. "I don't see it in his face and in his conversation. He's a strong enough man to back himself.
"He's focusing on being here and doing it well. At this point he knows he can't control things. But he knows when he is here he has to play well. That's the best advertisement he can have for himself. We reinforcement that when we had a chat last night."
Hansen suggested the key to getting the best out of Nonu was to reinforce the fact no individual was bigger than the team.
"I don't know what they don't do," he offered on why Nonu hadn't produced the same form in Super Rugby. "He's got clear expectations here like everybody else. If you don't there's a consequence. Each individual parcel makes up the whole of the All Blacks. We've got a culture, a philosophy that the team comes first. We drive that everyday. We've never had a problem."
 
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He's not the Nonu he was in his prime. I reckon they should invest in younger players to build a decent team again.
 
YEah but is it reciprocal?

Say it is, Nonu has to at least SHOW that he WANTS to play for a super rugby team if he wants to stay and play here.
 
Conrad Smith, you have to reference where you got the articles from or TRF could get in trouble :) Just add the article web address to the first post.
 
Conrad Smith, you have to reference where you got the articles from or TRF could get in trouble :) Just add the article web address to the first post.

Ok, buddy. I didn't know
 
crazy situation. you expect nonu to be great come super rugby time but man he is damage goods.

there was a stay somewhere pointing out the fact that in the last 3 years nonu has only won 4 or 5 games of super rugby, the canes in 2011, blues in 2012 and highlanders this year were shocking and a few of the wins those teams had in those years were when Nonu was not playing. The highlanders best performances this year were when Nonu wasn't on the field.

The Canes may really need Nonu and really hope he can turn things around. A lot of that hinges on if Barret goes to the blues, if he does then surely the best option would be to play Tim Bateman at 10? (who has the skills and was very good there for the Lions) which would leave a gap at 12.

For the amount of money he must demand being such a high profile player he just does not deliver results. Which is why the other franchises have ruled him out and surely one of the reasons why Hammett cut him in the first place.

Which brings me to my next point, surely Nonu must have to take a pay cut to stay in NZ now. Or have a super rugby contract that is performance related.

You have to admire Nonu's commitment to staying in NZ. He obviously cherishes being part of the All Blacks and for sure he has been a big part of that team and some great moments in recent history.

Personally Id like to see some Young Blood at 12 for the All Blacks. I don't think its fair that almost every 12-13 in NZ is performing better than Nonu in super rugby but Nonu gets all the gametime for the All Blacks. He does the job but we have no idea how Saili, Crotty or Aki would do given the chance in combination with the best players in NZ/the world.
 
crazy situation. you expect nonu to be great come super rugby time but man he is damage goods.

there was a stay somewhere pointing out the fact that in the last 3 years nonu has only won 4 or 5 games of super rugby, the canes in 2011, blues in 2012 and highlanders this year were shocking and a few of the wins those teams had in those years were when Nonu was not playing. The highlanders best performances this year were when Nonu wasn't on the field.

The Canes may really need Nonu and really hope he can turn things around. A lot of that hinges on if Barret goes to the blues, if he does then surely the best option would be to play Tim Bateman at 10? (who has the skills and was very good there for the Lions) which would leave a gap at 12.

For the amount of money he must demand being such a high profile player he just does not deliver results. Which is why the other franchises have ruled him out and surely one of the reasons why Hammett cut him in the first place.

Which brings me to my next point, surely Nonu must have to take a pay cut to stay in NZ now. Or have a super rugby contract that is performance related.

You have to admire Nonu's commitment to staying in NZ. He obviously cherishes being part of the All Blacks and for sure he has been a big part of that team and some great moments in recent history.

Personally Id like to see some Young Blood at 12 for the All Blacks. I don't think its fair that almost every 12-13 in NZ is performing better than Nonu in super rugby but Nonu gets all the gametime for the All Blacks. He does the job but we have no idea how Saili, Crotty or Aki would do given the chance in combination with the best players in NZ/the world.

I think that Nonu not interested in playing in the Super Rugby, he plays with little desire, without much effort. Sometimes it seems that when he plays in Super Rugby, he takes care of his body to avoid injury and so to play in ABs. He gives priority to ABs, which I think is fantastic for the team but it isn't productive for the Super Rugby Team that hires him.

Regards
 
I think that Nonu not interested in playing in the Super Rugby, he plays with little desire, without much effort. Sometimes it seems that when he plays in Super Rugby, he takes care of his body to avoid injury and so to play in ABs. He gives priority to ABs, which I think is fantastic for the team but it isn't productive for the Super Rugby Team that hires him.

Regards

... Exactly, so why would any of the franchises want him ... based on the past few seasons, he is at best, playing pretty average rugby, and at worst, a disruptive influence to the rest of the team.

The NZRU may have to come up with some financial incentive for one of the franchises to take him onto their books, and maybe, be officially affiliated with that team, but not play ... or, the AB selectors could make it very clear that AB selection WILL be based on current Super Rugby form - just an idea!
 
I have heard drums beating down in Crusaderland!!

They are certainly good at adjusting the bad attitudes of players (think Ron Cribb and Ali Williams). You go to Crusaderland to play rugby, and there is no "I", or "me" only "us" and "we". Its basically their way, or the highway.


Wherever Nonu ends up next is going to be his last chance saloon!
 
I have heard drums beating down in Crusaderland!!

They are certainly good at adjusting the bad attitudes of players (think Ron Cribb and Ali Williams). You go to Crusaderland to play rugby, and there is no "I", or "me" only "us" and "we". Its basically their way, or the highway.


Wherever Nonu ends up next is going to be his last chance saloon!

Nonu in Crusaders? It might be a good idea
 
Conrad Smith, you have to reference where you got the articles from or TRF could get in trouble :) Just add the article web address to the first post.

hey, that is Conrad smith you talking to, the best centre in the world, show some respect :lol:
 
Nonu reminds me of Frank Bunce. In the 1990s an annual media event was the "Should Frank Bunce be dropped from the All Blacks because his Super rugby form is so bad?".

Like Nonu, Bunce would have mild Super Rugby campaign and emerge as a rampaging world class player in the black jersery.

Nonu is still an vital part in the All Blacks squad with his direct ball running and overall distribution of the ball. Its just that Nonu doesnt seem so happy playing for Super Rugby. Well, see what happeneds.
 
Nonu reminds me of Frank Bunce. In the 1990s an annual media event was the "Should Frank Bunce be dropped from the All Blacks because his Super rugby form is so bad?".

Like Nonu, Bunce would have mild Super Rugby campaign and emerge as a rampaging world class player in the black jersery.

Nonu is still an vital part in the All Blacks squad with his direct ball running and overall distribution of the ball. Its just that Nonu doesnt seem so happy playing for Super Rugby. Well, see what happeneds.

But in the last test he was terrible, and to be fair its been a long time since we've seen Nonu run rampant. I haven't seen him break the line this year. I used to be a big fan of him but it seems he is only doing half his job - and even that he's not excelling at. Apparently he is looking at taking a sebatical instead of playing Super Rugby, seeing as it doesn't seem many people want him for their franchise.
 
He's still a lot better than Tim Bateman though. What is more Hammett is such a bad coach that he doesn't even sign up Lee-Lo.
 
He's still a lot better than Tim Bateman though. What is more Hammett is such a bad coach that he doesn't even sign up Lee-Lo.

What's the situation with Lee-Lo William? Has Hammet said he doesnt want him for 2014?

On Nonu, I belive there is a lot going on behind the scenes that the average punter doesnt know about. What ever it is the reality is that he will find a home somewhere and most likely that will be the Hurricanes. He is just too valuable for the All Blacks for them to not sort something out (particulalry while the SBW thing is up in the air).

Hopefuly Nonu can sort his issues out! He is still one of the worlds best 2nd 5s and I imagine he will still be in the mix come 2015 RWC!
 
He's still a lot better than Tim Bateman though. What is more Hammett is such a bad coach that he doesn't even sign up Lee-Lo.

Lee-Lo was the worst 12 for the Hurricanes...totally ineffective. I liked him at Counties, but I'd take Bateman over Lee-Lo any day of the week.
 
I thought Lee-Lo was one of the the Hurricane's best performers, to be honest. It also helped that he stayed free of injury.
 
nonu is good went he plays next to a good fly half... in s15 he played next to noaks I think at the highlanders... and nonu was avg to poor...

then came the test where he played next to carter and then cruden and he was back to his best or close too it...

last test next to taylor he was avg to poor once again...

I don't know how he gonna play next to Barrett next year :?
 

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