Massively Overrated XV

[durbutter]

This thread's going to go down well!

In fairness you called it.

I dont think saying someone is overrated is the same as saying he's a crap player.

John Hayes is slipping out of the spotlight, but he was great, and is a feckin' legend.
I rate Hayes as one of the all time Irish greats.

I know he's bee n a "ligind" in the past, thats when he was making tackles, getting to every ruck, locking the scrum and firing 17 stone forwards into the air with ease. Sadly he's stopped doing most of these things for the last season and most people recognise that, barring a miracle age defying return to form, the Bull needs to be put out to pasture because its unfair to expect the same level of performance at his age. I'm afraid he's damaging his remarkable legacy at the moment.

But a legend always.

 

[cyRil]

I don't think Adam Jones is overrated. It's taken him a few months to recover fully from the injury he sustained on the Lions tour, but was back at his best in the second NZ test. He wasn't playing last Autumn, and that made a big difference to the Welsh scrum and was the main reason Aus got on top. Not saying the first choice Aus scrum isn't very good though! He is highly rated, so if you think that's unjustified, then fine.

I feel IronMike has every right to include Mike Phillips though. He's been average at best this season, yet is still living off his reputation built up on the Lions tour. If this was a year ago, Phillips had just played some of the best rugby of his life in SA, up there with Fourie du Preez. I feel Genia is now better on current form, but some of the other you named Mike are way off! Not a fan of Cowan or Weepu.

Hang on Dull, you defend Adam because of the injury he sustained, yet say his criticism of Phillips is justified, even though Phillips has been out for more of the season with injury?
I agree that he hasn't been firing on all cylinders, due mainly to his injury, but if we're talking about recent form there was only one Welshman on the pitch in that second test v NZ, and it wasn't Dan Bloody Biggar either!!

 

[dullonien]

You have a point, however Adam Jones has been steadily getting better since returning, and really put in a great display in that second test. Compare that to Phillips who if anything has gotten worse from his excellent comeback game v Italy to the point where Richie Rees coming on v NZ was a huge step-up. You're only as good as your last game, as the sayign goes. In that respect, Adam Jones is still world class, whearas Phillips is distinctly average. I'm a big fan of Phillips and hope that a little time off over summer will hopefully mean he'll be firing again at the start of next season.

Roberts was awesome in that second test.

 

[Feicarsinn]

John Hayes is slipping out of the spotlight, but he was great, and is a feckin' legend.
I rate Hayes as one of the all time Irish greats.

Why? We've had way better props in the past. Sure he did the best he could with little natural talent, but that ain't enough to put him up there with the likes of Fergus Slattery, Willie John McBride, Jack Kyle, Keith Wood, Syd Millar etc.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Didn't know there was a rule that said I had to give my identity away, my identity is what it is and will find it varies from country to country due to a rather handy IP hider, that is what I do and this place is to discuss rugby not my or your life story.

Sorry that IP hider is rather poor and has left its trail. Also some of your old posts also have lead it to be known you are Versus ... especially with the 'I've trained with Cipriani'.

Also if its not the worst current XV then neither Adam Jones or Matfield should be included.

 

[SelimNiai]

Sorry that IP hider is rather poor and has left its trail. Also some of your old posts also have lead it to be known you are Versus ... especially with the 'I've trained with Cipriani'.

Also if its not the worst current XV then neither Adam Jones or Matfield should be included.

Ha, busted. DCI Cymro strikes again.

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Evidence can be provided to support this also

 

[cyRil]

Dunnew!!!!

 

[lucky number 7]

your Ip may be hidden but your still the douchebag you were under a different name...Detective cymro will always sniff you out ...

Btw hows the agent keeping?

 

[Iron Mike]

Not saying I never was Versus But you still don't know where I live or even my country, so your move.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

You'd be surprised what you can find on the internet with an ip adress

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Not saying I never was Versus But you still don't know where I live or even my country, so your move.

I do ta

 

[lucky number 7]

your with wasps academy so i doubt your very far from london

 

[TRF_Olyy]

http://www.wasps.co.uk/SquadDisplay.ink?team=Y
I'm sure he said he was a flyhalf or fullback before as well, so that's only two players to choose from

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Hang on now ... I think its time for a spilt thread ....

 

[lucky number 7]

http://www.wasps.co.uk/SquadDisplay.ink?team=Y
I'm sure he said he was a flyhalf or fullback before as well, so that's only two players to choose from

if he is in fact on the academy

 

[SelimNiai]

if he is in fact on the academy

2 pints says he isn't

 

[lucky number 7]

well there is no mike there anyways....2 pints says he is on the academy..how else could one get an agent?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Two flyhalfs, one fullback in their academy according to Wiki.
All apart from two have represented England age group, and Versus said he's from NZ so I don't think he's one of them. One is from Sale academy who switched over, so i don't think it's him, by the process of elimination i think he's "Will Fulton Eng Flyhalf 19"

how else could one get an agent?

Yellow Pages?

 

[SelimNiai]

Three flyhalfs, two fullbacks in their academy according to Wiki.
All apart from two have represented England age group, and Versus said he's from NZ so I don't think he's one of them. One is from Sale academy who switched over, so i don't think it's him, by the process of elimination i think he's "Will Fulton Eng Flyhalf 19"

Good work Poirot