Keven Mealamu get 4 weeks for head butt

[Black Heart]

I think 4 weeks is little more than a slap on the wrist and it will be farcical if not contemptible should they decide to appeal. Graham Henry's remark that Mealamu is such a clean player is laughable.

What's laughable is that you would even think about compairing the dicipline of Mealamu to someone such as Botha. Unfortunatly for you however your particular opinion in this case stands alone so stop talking rubbish.

Over 60 provincial games, over 100 Super Rugby games, over 80 tests for the All Blacks and this is the first time he's been convicted for anything more than blowing his nose. The facts speak for themselves.

On that other hand I think the suspension was a fair call. It's pointless giving out anything more because it'll count for nothing going into the off-season.

 

[gingergenius]

smartcooky got mealamu's spot on. if you've played pantomime ball, that's how you get power on a header by moving your neck like that... completely intentional.

hartley. as a one off incident, worth a citing and then a 3-4 week ban. for someone with his previous, longer. especially seeing as he got off scott free against 6 Nations for gouging, which wasn't as serious that time but was still deliberate contact with the eyes. he's such an arsehole that despite his ability, i'd rather he were nowhere near the england setup. being a physical menace means doing what brad thorn did to him, not cowardly little cheapshots.

however, i know someone who knows someone who ****** him in thailand this summer and says he's pretty useful in the bedroom, even if he is fugly.

 

[Larksea]

4 weeks prob is fitting, what ****** me off is that hartly got nothing. Massive inconsistancy.

 

[smartcooky]

The game, frankly, can do without thugs like Mealamu and Botha. Shame though as they are both very talented players.
I think 4 weeks is little more than a slap on the wrist and it will be farcical if not contemptible should they decide to appeal. Graham Henry's remark that Mealamu is such a clean player is laughable.
Why can't there be integrity any more? The guy's been found out - he's guilty - let common decency prevail, give him an appropriate punishment ( like three months suspension plus a heavy fine, with the proviso that if he offends to the same degree a second time, he's out of the game permanently).

Please do not insult the intelligent of the members of this board by putting Mealamu in the same bucket as a serial thug like Bakkies Botha. Chalk and cheese. Botha has, in the past gone out of his way to commit foul play and cause injury to opponents every time he took the field. This is Mealamu's first trip to the judiciary in 82 tests and 185 domestic matches (267 first class games). By comparison, Bakkies Botha has fronted the judge more than 8 times in a career of only 65 tests and 136 domestic matches, although it has to be said, he has a long way to go to catch up with Danny Grewcock, 21 yellow cards, four red cards, over a dozen disciplinary hearings and suspensions totalling 2½ seasons.

Mealamu does not deserve to be put in the same basket with thugs like Bakkies.

 

[Jonnywire]

Mealamu the saint!!!!!!

how can any of you defend Mealamu, I really dont need to remind people about the Lions tour (o Driscoll). Was it not Mealamu who dropped him on his bloody head?? Cop on, the dude got off very lightly!!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Surprised it took 3 pages to get to that :lol:

 

[Teh Mite]

4 weeks prob is fitting, what ****** me off is that hartly got nothing. Massive inconsistancy.

Maybe Thorn, Armitage, Lawes, Nonu, Hape, Williams and Kano should have also been cited in that case. They all made shoulder charges (or worse) at various points during the match - Not all of them on the ball either.

Besides, he caught McCaw handling in the ruck, on the floor and (supposedly) out of the game... That's not a citing offence, it's worth a bloody medal! :lol:

 

[Shaggy]

how can any of you defend Mealamu, I really dont need to remind people about the Lions tour (o Driscoll). Was it not Mealamu who dropped him on his bloody head?? Cop on, the dude got off very lightly!!

Here we go ... have you read the posts ... most people are saying that head butting needs to be stamped out, and that he deserves to be penalised, that it was a stupid act, etc ... they are just saying that, given how many tests and other games he's played, and the lack of foul play compared to someone like Botha, who's played about half as many games and visited the judiciary several times more, or Grewcock, who's worst still, he doesn't deserve to be grouped in the thug category.

If the radio talk back in NZ is anything to go by, most NZers are saying just cop it and move on ... possibly that's something you could consider doing, considering the whole BOD incident happened 5 years ago ... and yes, from the posts that i've read from fellow Kiwis on here that i've read, acknowledge that Umaga and/or Mealamu should have been cited over the incident

Maybe Thorn, Armitage, Lawes, Nonu, Hape, Williams and Kano should have also been cited in that case. They all made shoulder charges (or worse) at various points during the match - Not all of them on the ball either.

Besides, he caught McCaw handling in the ruck, on the floor and (supposedly) out of the game... That's not a citing offence, it's worth a bloody medal! :lol:

Well I guess he didn't get cited, so that's that ... move on to the next game ... interesting that Moody got penalised for coming in from an offside position, and Mealamu's stupid action was as a result of that ... will you advise Mealamu that you are sending him a medal, Bullitt, or shall I?

 

[Gavin]

What Thorn did to Hartley in the end was pretty epic. It was as if Hartley was a fly that had landed on Thorn's shoulder and Thorn decided to flick him off. Back to the topic though, this might aid New Zealand as they now get a chance to blood a young hooker instead of an older model who probably wouldn't last much longer after the World Cup.

 

[smartcooky]

Here we go ... have you read the posts ... most people are saying that head butting needs to be stamped out, and that he deserves to be penalised, that it was a stupid act, etc ... they are just saying that, given how many tests and other games he's played, and the lack of foul play compared to someone like Botha, who's played about half as many games and visited the judiciary several times more, or Grewcock, who's worst still, he doesn't deserve to be grouped in the thug category

This is what the idiotic one-post-wonders like johnnywire do, they come into a thread, look at the last couple of posts and run off at the "mouth" (keyboard!)..... either too lazy to read the rest of the thread, or too illiterate to understand the meaning.

If the radio talk back in NZ is anything to go by, most NZers are saying just cop it and move on ... possibly that's something you could consider doing, considering the whole BOD incident happened 5 years ago ... and yes, from the posts that i've read from fellow Kiwis on here that i've read, acknowledge that Umaga and/or Mealamu should have been cited over the incident

You are right on the money Shaggy. Steve Hansen has been absolutely copping it on Radiosport this morning for his defence of Keven. Thirty-one calls and texts about the heat-butt... one supporting Hansen, thirty one against.

This shows a severe lack of judgement on Hansen's part, and it makes me begin to wonder about some of the other things that he has said recently.. the "flush the dunny and move on" comment, the "we're all New Zealander's together" comment about the media a week or two ago.

I wonder if he is losing the plot. Certainly, some of the squad selections make me wonder.

 

[nickdnz]

smartcooky got mealamu's spot on. if you've played pantomime ball, that's how you get power on a header by moving your neck like that... completely intentional.

hartley. as a one off incident, worth a citing and then a 3-4 week ban. for someone with his previous, longer. especially seeing as he got off scott free against 6 Nations for gouging, which wasn't as serious that time but was still deliberate contact with the eyes. he's such an arsehole that despite his ability, i'd rather he were nowhere near the england setup. being a physical menace means doing what brad thorn did to him, not cowardly little cheapshots.

however, i know someone who knows someone who ****** him in thailand this summer and says he's pretty useful in the bedroom, even if he is fugly.

Maybe that's how he escaped further punishment? :lol:

In fairness for Mealamu, some other camera angles may show something different, although the one that is shown does certainly look damning. Four weeks does seem fair, but I see no reason why, if Mealamu genuinly does not believe he intentionally head butt someone, he is owed by the All Blacks as much support as possible. I wouldn't mind it being reduced, but I can certainly see how many other teams would feel this is unfair.

As for Hartly not getting punished, that's out of our control. It seems an unfair double standard, but there have been times this year when the All Blacks have had their fair of luck, with the opposition being carded for small offences (Dannie Rossouw's yellow card springs to mind), so it's swings and round-a-bouts. Personally, I would'nt mind Hartly committing these kinds of offences every game, because unlike Kevin Mealamu, Heartly doesn't have a clean record to rest on, and sooner or later it will ruin his reputation and he'll be banned for long periods of time.

 

[squirrel]

also hansen tryed to defend jerry collins for trying to pull george smiths hair out in brisbane 06 saying something along the lines that its part of the game
seem to remember mealamu having fisticuffs with brendon cannon a few years ago though cannon started it to be fair, but i dont buy this christian bullshit as a defence of his character

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Interesting article I read this morning in the Telegraph about how Brian Moore feels about it all.

Article can be read here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ru...en-Mealamu-has-put-rugby-world-in-a-spin.html

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Interesting read that!
Though I can't imagine many Kiwis coming away from it with a newfound love for Brian Moore :lol:

 

[Teh Mite]

What Thorn did to Hartley in the end was pretty epic. It was as if Hartley was a fly that had landed on Thorn's shoulder and Thorn decided to flick him off.

Lawes' "Oh no you bloody don't" response, then Thorne eye-balling Lawes then choosing to go for someone else instead was even better.


Lawes 1 - 0 Thorne

:lol:

 

[TRF_Cymro]

Interesting read that!
Though I can't imagine many Kiwis coming away from it with a newfound love for Brian Moore :lol:

Won't like it but its the truth, he raises a point.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Lawes' "Oh no you bloody don't" response, then Thorne eye-balling Lawes then choosing to go for someone else instead was even better.


Lawes 1 - 0 Thorne

:lol:

I like when Ma'a Nonu is dragging Lawes away, but Lawes is still dragging the SH with him, and eyeballing Thorne as well

 

[azeli]

I like when Ma'a Nonu is dragging Lawes away, but Lawes is still dragging the SH with him, and eyeballing Thorne as well

This Lawes was talked up a bit in the lead up to the test....after watching the test....why?!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

What more did you want him to do?
He tackled well, hit every ruck hard, and was often the first white shirt there, carried well, and took his lineout catches well



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[TRF_Cymro]

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