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Sources have confirmed what the Queensland Rugby Union will not.

A Reds contract with O'Connor is officially a done deal and his return to Australia for next year's Super Rugby season will put him on the radar as a valuable wing option for the Wallabies in their backline position of poorest depth.

And QRU boss Jim Carmichael is unshakably confident Queensland's strong team culture can deliver the supportive environment to get the best out of O'Connor.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/s...-queensland-reds/story-e6frf4qu-1226971171198
 
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Guy was a total f##khead when he was in Australia last and none of the teams were interested in talking to him. But I've heard he's pulled his head in since then, so good luck to him - he'll be handy come the RWC if he can get his sh#t together.

Not sure where he'd play though to be honest... He won't make wing if with Speight, Horne, AAC and the Honey Badger doing so well. Heck, if he can show increasing promise, Taqele Naiyaravoro may keep him out too. He'd only played in the last 10 for the Tahs since coming on, but he was actually pretty impressive in the short time he was on against the Brums - breaking tackles, putting on big hits and generally intimidating his opposition.
 
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I always thought he was a really talented winger, he just never really got a position for his own, people wanted to play him as a 10 and I just didn't see it.

Needed a coach and a team to mentor him, but his own fault as well and he wouldn't listen and was easily distracted.
 
As a reds fan im worried that he well hurt the teams culture. He will be good as long as he only plays on the wing. Sanzar im no joc fan or anything but I cant see someone like Horne keeping him out of the wallabies he just has crazy speed. not very many people can make Tommy Bowe look slow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT9tNJdiQ2E
 
He's really got his head down at London Irish, played really well and had no mishaps off the pitch either - hopefully his holiday in Toulon doesn't undo all of this.
 
agree with Olyy, he's been a class signing for Irish, turned in some quality performances.
 
A good option for the Wallabies and Reds both on the wing if he really has turned a corner in his approach to being a professional sports-person.
 
I think his head is on straight these days and its good signing, could be a useful 12. He'll need to make a position his own over the next 12 months though. As odd as it may sound I reckon that having QC around will be good for him as QC has gotten his act together and he could guide JOC.
 
I would play him on the wing, folau on the other and kurtley at fullback. For the reds I would have him at fullback get as much touches as possible
 
if you were to drop anyone from the current wallaby Back line it would been Kuridrani Put ACC there and JOC on the wing.
 
I must say that it really blows my mind the hate this guy receives from my fellow Australians.

Yes, he made some mistakes but surely he deserves a second chance? QC got one after calling out Deans and the whole Wallabies program, KB has had several after a string of alcohol related incidents - including punching a teammate. What had JOC really done apart in the grand scheme of things? Sure, he has had a bad attitude and by many reports has been a bit of a prick. However after his reputation being dragged through the mud and a forced exile, chances are he has got the message and will sort himself out. I think he deserves the second chance and find it amazing so many others disagree. We all make mistakes.. especially at 23 years of age.

As for his talent - the guy can play. If he is at his best the Wallabies wingers in 2015 will be JOC and Speight. Yes, he is better than the Honey Badger. If he can prove he had grown up - he could easily go on to being a 100 Test player.
 
Taqele Naiyaravoro may keep him out too. He'd only played in the last 10 for the Tahs since coming on, but he was actually pretty impressive in the short time he was on against the Brums - breaking tackles, putting on big hits and generally intimidating his opposition.

Sorry but this is the craziest thing I have heard all year.
 
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and if the reds successfully sign Digby Ioane then damn i think the reds could do alot off damage next year
 
I must say that it really blows my mind the hate this guy receives from my fellow Australians.

Yes, he made some mistakes but surely he deserves a second chance? QC got one after calling out Deans and the whole Wallabies program, KB has had several after a string of alcohol related incidents - including punching a teammate. What had JOC really done apart in the grand scheme of things? Sure, he has had a bad attitude and by many reports has been a bit of a prick. However after his reputation being dragged through the mud and a forced exile, chances are he has got the message and will sort himself out. I think he deserves the second chance and find it amazing so many others disagree. We all make mistakes.. especially at 23 years of age.

As for his talent - the guy can play. If he is at his best the Wallabies wingers in 2015 will be JOC and Speight. Yes, he is better than the Honey Badger. If he can prove he had grown up - he could easily go on to being a 100 Test player.

Thing is he is past his 2nd chance by now. He must be up to his 5th or 6th by now lol.

He should be at the world cup as a 1st choice winger if he has his **** sorted.
 
I must say that it really blows my mind the hate this guy receives from my fellow Australians.

Yes, he made some mistakes but surely he deserves a second chance? QC got one after calling out Deans and the whole Wallabies program, KB has had several after a string of alcohol related incidents - including punching a teammate. What had JOC really done apart in the grand scheme of things? Sure, he has had a bad attitude and by many reports has been a bit of a prick. However after his reputation being dragged through the mud and a forced exile, chances are he has got the message and will sort himself out. I think he deserves the second chance and find it amazing so many others disagree. We all make mistakes.. especially at 23 years of age.

As for his talent - the guy can play. If he is at his best the Wallabies wingers in 2015 will be JOC and Speight. Yes, he is better than the Honey Badger. If he can prove he had grown up - he could easily go on to being a 100 Test player.

As nzlizard points out, the view a lot of people have is that this will be his 5th or 6th chance as it is. He was kicked out of several clubs for off-field indiscretions while he was here remember.

All the same, I haven't seen too much "hate" for him to be honest ... not on this site anyway. But he really did seem to go out of his way to make himself unwanted when he was in Australia mate... you don't get a situation where none of our 5 franchises show any interest in you in spite of your obvious talent without doing a fair bit to rub people the wrong way. Around the time he was forced out, the stories of him were pretty bad too. I'd heard people say that even blokes who played at school with him wouldn't talk to him anymore because he was a pretty nasty and manipulative character... basically the picture that was painted of him by his peers was one of a narcissistic sociopath that didn't give a toss about anyone but himself and enjoyed f###ing with people around him. Team culture is important, and whilst we don't know all the details about what he did to make himself so disliked by so many of his teammates, the general view was that he was bad for pretty well every team culture he got involved with.

It was all hearsay of course, but you don't get that sort of reputation for nothing and it didn't seem like too many teams were unhappy he wasn't going to be around.

To be fair though, he's got glowing reviews from the London Irish, so hopefully he's pulled his head in and pulled down that wanky website of his describing himself as an "Australian Rugby Superstar" replete with wanky picture of him in a hoody looking disinterested against a graffitied wall.

Sorry but this is the craziest thing I have heard all year.

Naiyaravoro has a bit of time to make a name for himself before O'Connor comes over, and if the Waratahs can get his skills up, that sort of size could come in very handy against the increasingly large backlines the Wallabies face now. O'Connor is good, but he definitely won't push out Speight if he's not injured, so he'll have to push out AAC or the Honey Badger, or go on the bench. If he goes on the Bench, then that's where Naiyaravoro might be a problem, as a big guy like that might be more useful in the back end of games.
 
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As you said sanzar, these stories are hearsay. I'm not trying to say he was a model teammate but I think after what would have been a pretty rough year, the guy would have been forced to reevaluate his behavior. Not that it excuses his behavior, but this was likely the kick in the teeth he needed to sort himself out. Give him the last opportunity to prove he is a better man.

I also do not subscribe to the notion it is his 5th or 6th chance. There were incidents in the past, yes but this last year was the only forced exile. If it was QC and KB's second chance - then surely it is JOC's..

What the ARU and Red's need to do (and likely have) is pair him up with a Wallaby great in a mentor type role. If Dean's did one thing poorly, it was player management. We've seen QC and KB very recently change their ways and it was on the back of strong leadership and player management. That is what his dude needs more than anything.

I think Australian rugby is at a very critical point in its history at the moment. AFL, League and Soccer continue to grow where as our game is stagnant in this country and arguably on the decline. There is very much a sense of win now (or very soon) in order to keep rugby relevant and ensure future generations grow up wanting to be a Wallaby (as opposed to a Kangaroo). To do this we need our best players and I think JOC is a lock for the match day 23 if he is on form and has the right attitude.
 
As you said sanzar, these stories are hearsay. I'm not trying to say he was a model teammate but I think after what would have been a pretty rough year, the guy would have been forced to reevaluate his behavior. Not that it excuses his behavior, but this was likely the kick in the teeth he needed to sort himself out. Give him the last opportunity to prove he is a better man.

I also do not subscribe to the notion it is his 5th or 6th chance. There were incidents in the past, yes but this last year was the only forced exile. If it was QC and KB's second chance - then surely it is JOC's..

What the ARU and Red's need to do (and likely have) is pair him up with a Wallaby great in a mentor type role. If Dean's did one thing poorly, it was player management. We've seen QC and KB very recently change their ways and it was on the back of strong leadership and player management. That is what his dude needs more than anything.

It is his 5th or 6th chance in so far as he was effectively forced out of every franchise he played with here and didn't have any support from the playing group - something which is a heck of a black mark if you're a player because your teammates are your life in a lot of ways. It just seemed like he was too successful too quick and just fell massively in love with himself and didn't seem to have any respect for those around him.

But you're right, he seems like he's had time to reassess things, and has done a bit of a Quade in so far as he's just kept his head down and his mouth shut and focused on the footy. For what it's worth, I hope he does well when he comes back, because he is a great talent and I do see parallels with Quade, who really turned it around before getting injured.

What the ARU and Red's need to do (and likely have) is pair him up with a Wallaby great in a mentor type role. If Dean's did one thing poorly, it was player management. We've seen QC and KB very recently change their ways and it was on the back of strong leadership and player management. That is what his dude needs more than anything.

Sadly Deans was a pretty poor player manager it seems... guys just didn't listen to him. I'm not too sure O'Connor would listen to senior players, as he hasn't in the past in spite of characters like Elsom being around back when he was first in. It really needs to start with the coach, and in a certain sense he might be better at the 'Tahs, as Cheika is pretty no-nonsense and seems to know how to get all the boys on the same page.
 

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