Ireland v South Africa

[Prestwick]

Hell if I know, you hypocritical miscreant.

And I believe it is going to be wet. Quite wet.

 

[shazbooger]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ShaheenJ @ Nov 24 2009, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Heh, a lot of pointless chest beating going on here. Ireland weren't setting the world alight with their recent performances. The draw against Australia is not much to go by and The Boks have been out of sorts on this tour (including the midweek woes). So neither side can lay claim to handing out some sort of thrashing. If we get our scrum right, i.e. Smit back at Hooker and BJ on tighthead, we'll be set to lay a foundation for our loosies and backs. Ireland have to front up like the French did, and if they can manage to do that, dominate in the collisions, and get quick ball to the backs, they'll have a great chance of winning. I'm calling this one 50/50 purely based on current form, forget about 6 Nations, Tri Nations and more importantly BIL Tour (can't we all just get past it and move on?)... it's all to play for and may the best team win, of course I'll go with The Springboks .[/b]

All it takes is one eeeeeigit talking sense to ruin it for everyone!

Now where was I!

Incidently, there are 12 Lions starting for Ireland with 2 more on the bench.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prestwick @ Nov 24 2009, 03:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

And I believe it is going to be wet. Quite wet.[/b]

But not as wet as a swimming pool ............. or sumpin.

 

[Jer1cho]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prestwick @ Nov 24 2009, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

And I believe it is going to be wet. Quite wet.[/b]

My favorite conditions to play in! h34r:

If it rains, we are screwed...

 

[Prestwick]

Awwwwww why did you change it?!

(I got both of your old pictures saved by the way)

 

[Jer1cho]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prestwick @ Nov 24 2009, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Awwwwww why did you change it?!

(I got both of your old pictures saved by the way)[/b]

Nah it's ok, was time for a change. Just not a DRASTIC change... ugh...

BTW, Can we organize an -after AI- podcast to round up the year? Get everyones views on players, teams, results etc etc? I especially want Logorrhea to join...

 

[Prestwick]

You shameful imbecile.

 

[ShaheenJ]

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All it takes is one eeeeeigit talking sense to ruin it for everyone!

Now where was I!

Incidently, there are 12 Lions starting for Ireland with 2 more on the bench.[/b]

LOL... at the Gorilla. 12 Lions in the starting lineup comes as no surprise really. Ireland is #1 among the home nations.

 

[MunsterMan]

I think rain would hurt us more than you to be honest, as we try and run the ball....

 

[Jer1cho]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MunsterMan @ Nov 24 2009, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I think rain would hurt us more than you to be honest, as we try and run the ball.... [/b]

Oh yeah, i forgot we win by not even playing...

 

[stormer2010]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (snoopy snoopy dog dog @ Nov 24 2009, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I already thought South Africa had no chance in this game. Now I know that's the case with Sexton starting. South Africa won't know what hit them. Ireland by 30 if the Boks are lucky.

Afterwards they'll go running off home crying about fatigue, injuries, the ref etc. Perhaps they'll give up the sport and put on some of those tutus De Villiers speaks of because they'll no longer fancy being slapped all over the park by supreme Irish, French, Saracens reserve and Leicester reserve sides.[/b]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jer1cho @ Nov 24 2009, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Logorrhea @ Nov 24 2009, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What kinda woman are you. Join us in the blind euphoria that is life as a South African rugby fan! You dont have to worry when you KNOW your going to win![/b]

Uh, you trying to prove a point?
[/b][/quote]

LOL. I have learnt that I like the Irish. All this optimism in the face of certain embarrasment.

My only concern is the injustice to Sexton; here he is, a young man and a great prospect going forward, pitted against Fiji where he invariably excells and even outstrip all expectation on debut and then DK selects him to face the Bokke only the next fixture... ai tog.

I hope his conficdence and future in rugby doesn't get ruined by Kidney's reckless gamble and hope the Irish public don't turn on him in the face of what will be certain anihilation (ITO rugby performance) as the Springbokke have a way of making their opposition look average. Take the ABs; everyone is saying they are improving and on the up again when the reality is that they are simply not facing the Bokke anymore. Simple as that.

Anyway, keep up the fighting talk, you brave men.

 

[shazbooger]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (stormer2010 @ Nov 24 2009, 03:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

My only concern is the injustice to Sexton; here he is, a young man and a great prospect going forward, pitted against Fiji where he invariably excells and even outstrip all expectation on debut and then DK selects him to face the Bokke only the next fixture... ai tog.[/b]

Here he is 20 mins into the HEC final last year. Confidence is not a problem.

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[bristol-iain]

As a netural (not fully neutral, my great great great grandparents came from cork so I'm 1/32th Irish or summat :lol I think it will be a draw.

There.

Now if you'll excuse me Im going to get of this fence I've got splinters in my arse now.

 

[stevemagoo]

Looks like it might actually be dry for the kickoff, and the wind is due to die down too.

 

[Moonfire]

wow that's an awesome drop, we're still going to massacre Ireland if we play John at 2 and Olivier at 12 though.

 

[Steve-o]

Geez! 7 pages already.

Best team (Ireland) from the best annual international tournament in the world (6N). Surely the Boks are underdogs once again, not to mention our "humiliating" record against Ireland.
Add that to the fact we lost our super duper Springbok-captain-to-be Chiliboy Ralepelle to injury, and had to call up a light weight like Strauss and call up a disposed fringe Bok in the form BJ Botha (him being the best prop in the Magners is smoke and mirrors BTW) The stocks are running thin!

OK that's out the way.

Apparently Smit is starting at hooker for this game, such is the impact specialist prop BJ Botha has made.
Jake White always said that the most important player on the team is the tighthead, and the 2nd most important player is the replacement tighthead.

Predicted PdV lineup:

1 - BEAST!!!
2 - Smit
3 - BJ Botha
4 - Bakkie Botha
5 - Matfield
6 - Brussow
7 - Burger
8 - Rossouw
9 - du Preez
10 - M. Steyn
11 - Habana
12 - Jacobs
13 - Fourie
14 - JP Pietersen
15 - Kirchner

16 - B. du Plessis
17 - W. du Preez
18 - Bekker
19 - Deysel
20 - Hougaard
21 - Pienaar
22 - Olivier

My Preferred Lineup

1 - BEAST!!!
2 - Smit
3 - BJ Botha
4 - Bakkie Botha
5 - Matfield
6 - Brussow
7 - Deysel
8 - Rossouw
9 - du Preez
10 - M. Steyn
11 - Habana
12 - Olivier
13 - Fourie
14 - JP Pietersen
15 - Kirchner (who else... Rose?)

16 - B. du Plessis
17 - W. du Preez
18 - Bekker
19 - Burger
20 - Hougaard
21 - Pienaar
22 - Jacobs

I don't think PdV is gonna stray too far from the team that played Italy, but will take in the lessons learned from the last 10/15 minutes against Italy. A specialist tighthead is vital and the Smit at 3 experiment has failed. Besides that Bismarck is a FANTASTIC player to bring on as an impact player.
Deysel has made a seamless transmission onto the International stage, he has been so solid the whole tour I think he deserves a game ahead of Burger, who is nursing an injury. I also think our backrow is balanced with Rossouw at 8 than Kankowski. Another player who is nursing a injury is *surprise surprise* Adi Jacobs. HE SHOULD NOT BE ON TOUR BECAUSE HE HAS NOT BEEN 100% FIT THIS THE MIDWAY OF THE S14. We need Oliviers tenacity and defense at 12 for this game.
I'm almost tempted to replace Hougaard with Rose because Pienaar and him do the same job, but Earl Rose, uurrggh, not yet. Hougaard shouldn't be on this tour either mind you. I really wouldn't be surprised if Rose gets on the bench.

 

[feicarsinn]

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BJ Botha (him being the best prop in the Magners is smoke and mirrors BTW) The stocks are running thin![/b]

You misspelled Cian Healy.

 

[roscommon guy]

Will win 24-22 with John Hayes man of the match after been incredable in to loose play and destroying the beast

 

[shtove]

Interesting with Sexton at 10. I don't understand why Wallace is left at 12 when Darcy did well outside Sexton in the last match. Kicking? But Wallace hardly kicked against Aus.

 

[An Tarbh]

Wallace's distribution is an awful lot better than D'Arcy's, fact that he fluffed a certain try against Fiji won't have helped his cause either.

 

[snoopy snoopy dog dog]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MunsterMan @ Nov 24 2009, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Even with Sexton at 10, I'd still be very worried if you field BJ Botha at tighthead on Saturday.[/b]

Healy has faced Botha a few times in the last year (three I think). I was quite worried how he'd fair in the Magners League game in Belfast last December but Healy if anything came out on top. Not once has Botha got the better of him. Botha is a very solid prop who's been an excellent addition for Ulster but he's not somebody to be feared.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Incredible Schalk @ Nov 24 2009, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

In 2004 there was nothing between the sides, i seem to remember the Irish try was a bit dodgy, last time though Ireland won easily although the Springboks included the likes of Bevin Fortuin and Hilton Lobberts. With Habana playing 13..[/b]

Ireland can one up that. We won that game despite Ronan O'Gara playing at 10!