Ireland v New Zealand (13/11)

[TRF_Olyy]

Andy Farrell the most successful NH coach vs the All Blacks in history?

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Well done Ireland! A great watch.

 

[big ginger 8]

Fingers crossed for players fitness because the Summer Tour down there has the potential to be epic.

 

[ChicagoKid]

It's about the forwards for me. If the Kiwis don't get some testiculer fortiude in the next week, the French forwards will bash them just like Ireland and South Africa.

The script for beating the All Blacks is out. Target their forwards and midfield with pure physicality.

 

[Groundhog]

I don't want to overreact to this victory, but were the greatest team in world rugby history and Lomu wouldn't have made the 23 ahead of Keith Earls.

In all seriousness our pack is heavy duty now. Can genuinely match up with anyone with depth to spare in second and back row. Fair play to Farrell for keeping going while being embattled by small little men like me and making some good calls. Skills also looked great

 

[ChicagoKid]

Christ that japanese team had hardly attempted to front up. The jump to play NZ who again have jumped to the next level I sadly worried for the result ahead

Hate to be the arrogant American, but told ya!

Great win - have a pint for me tonight.

 

[ChicagoKid]

I don't want to overreact to this victory, but were the greatest team in world rugby history and Lomu wouldn't have made the 23 ahead of Keith Earls.

In all seriousness our pack is heavy duty now. Can genuinely match up with anyone with depth to spare in second and back row. Fair play to Farrell for keeping going while being embattled by small little men like me and making some good calls. Skills also looked great

Can you imagine the physicality between the Boks and Ireland during pool play?

 

[Bluemoon]

It's about the forwards for me. If the Kiwis don't get some testiculer fortiude in the next week, the French forwards will bash them just like Ireland and South Africa.

The script for beating the All Blacks is out. Target their forwards and midfield with pure physicality.

Agree totally with this. The French will be well up for it now as they also have a very strong and mobile pack as well.

 

[Groundhog]

Does anyone know how to make a boner go down?? It's been there for like 2 hours now

 

[ForumWhore]

Does anyone know how to make a boner go down?? It's been there for like 2 hours now

Think about your wife.

 

[Reiser99]

Does anyone know how to make a boner go down?? It's been there for like 2 hours now

Watch an England win, that'll be the ultimate climax.

 

[Groundhog]

Think about your wife.

I'm married to the job: full time Anglophobe

 

[big ginger 8]

Very good first half in a lot of ways. But not clinical enough and one mistake from Furlong/Kelleher and its hard to see us winning given our bench.

Haha you ******* idiot, lol.

 

[GoTheNaki]

Didn't deserve to even be close today, the score line absolutely flatters the dumpster fire that has been the ABs today. This game should be viewed as badly as a 30 point loss, but it won't be, because it was played at 4am for NZ.

Havili not good enough(shocking game time decisions, I don't think I have ever seen him do that), Reece awful, TJ not clinical enough(not in the same tier as Aaron Smith), STILL have NO CLUE who our centre pairing is. Jordie invisible, his brother at his absolute predictably overrated best, **** decisions, **** combos, **** archaic coaching that hasn't changed since 2019, This team has gone nowhere since even losing to Ireland in Chicago, let alone getting dumped on by England. We've had a hand-me-down coaching system and it's time to do something about it, because there are 3 teams in the world AT MINIMUM that have our number. This does not, and will not work at a World Cup, just like in 2019. We have a 10 in Barrett who only flat passes into a rushing defense, and it has been that for 3 years, it is not good enough. Ffs PICK a centre pairing, how can we compete at this level when we haven't had a consistent starting pair since 2015... PICK a starting 10, STOP swapping between Barrett and Mo'unga, the latter hasn't even had an entire season where he's the starting #10, why is there so much confusion? There is zero direction from this team which has potentially the most talent it has EVER had. Well, clearly, there is so much that a guy who was barely a regular starting halfback for his county, and two others that weren't quite there at their positions as well, were starting for Ireland... So is it our players or the coaching staff...

Bring on Scott Robertson. Bring on something like this:

Moody
Taylor
Laulala
Retallick
Whitelock
Ioane
Cane
Savea
A. Smith
Mo'unga
Clarke
J. Barrett (Yes, the kid who has all the talent in the world played at 12 for his school, and before being shifted to fullback because of a logjam at the Hurricanes(and NZ) wanted to play 12.)
Ennor
Jordan
McKenzie

Bench:

Lomax(Can't remember right now who the prop with the combover and the glasses is called)
Coles(Aumua in the end)
Tu'inukuafe
S. Barrett
Papali'i (I don't think he's a world beater, I don't even think he's particularly special, the coach clearly enjoys him, great energy, but bench obviously)
TJ
Barrett (Super-sub in his twilight years where he can finally attempt to run at the tired defense, coz lord knows he doesn't run at the line any other time.)
Rieko Ioane

Jordie going to 12 goes back to old style thinking that the 12 can do everything that the 10 can do. The problem is, Ma'a Nonu was a far smarter rugby player and far more dangerous than what we are seeing line up in the #12 jersey currently, Jordie has the vision, passing, kicking, running, he has everything we need in the centres. Give them a coach that isn't scared to try something new, and hasn't been handed down a system that was starting to fail and just continued it with no new ideas. There is a reason why Schmidt, Gatland, Robertson, Rennie, were talked about as being the NZ coach, those are GREAT coaches, they do great things with the talent they are given. The system the way it is right now with the Hansen/Foster system is going to bring us shock losses, and a "shock" exit come World Cup. and I've been saying this for 2 years at minimum. Tiresome.

 

[GoTheNaki]

Three in 5 years is some record, tbf

All Blacks pack looks a shambles, usually if a team is poor in the setpiece they make up for it in open play etc. but they were beaten in every aspect of play
ABs need to look at their coaching setup long and hard before the RWC
ABs always used to be 15-23 of the best players in the world - don't think there was a player out there who wasn't comprehensively outplayed by his opposite number

If anyone wants a TL;DR version of my above post, it would be this.

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Be English, don't worry about your Centres, just find a test match animal and crowbar him in there somehow.

 

[ncurd]

George off surprising no one.

 

[Reiser99]

George off surprising no one.

Wrong thread.

 

[NZbloke]

Congrats to Ireland... well deserved win.

Was always a big worry for me that when it comes to the tight tests that we don't have the right coaches there to do the job... they get the selections wrong, their tactics are poor & they're not identifying the same problems that have been happening the whole year.
ABs were absolute garbage in the forwards in this match, again the forwards didn't take the ball up through enough phases & the cleaning was poor... Perenara had to basically dig the ball out of the ruck with a bloody shovel.
From the Start BB was kicking too many up & unders, when he came off we didn't learn from it, continued to kick up & unders & box kicks - stupid tactic, the chances of getting the ball back from that tactic is less than 50/50.
We have the best attacking backs in world rugby, but that means nothing if the forwards are not doing the hard yakka by giving our backs a good platform to work from... Ireland did the basics really well in the forwards, that's exactly what we should've been doing.

 

[Jer1cho]

What a game. Was excellent. Crowd was awesome. Congrats to Ireland. Fully deserved and were just so committed to everything. Missed these EOY tours!