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Ireland v England - 19 August 2023

Not sure how Ireland didn't get pinged for sealing considering how strict the refs been most of the game.
 
We're a laughing stock.

I watched the try against New Zealand in the WC semi final from four years ago the other day and pretty much all of the players involved are still in the team now. Those same players who ripped through the All Blacks now struggle to catch and pass the ball.

I just can't get my head round it. There must be something behind the scenes that isn't right. How can we be so bad for so long? Things are getting worse if anything. It's getting to the point now where I'd just tell some of these players that they're done in an England shirt and they won't be picked again. Itoje looked like a superstar in that semi final four years ago and in actual fact it was probably the last time he played well for England.
 
It's at the point where the only chance we have of a try is an intercept, but I wouldn't trust any of our backs to actually go the distance and score it
 
We're a laughing stock.

I watched the try against New Zealand in the WC semi final from four years ago the other day and pretty much all of the players involved are still in the team now. Those same players who ripped through the All Blacks now struggle to catch and pass the ball.

I just can't get my head round it. There must be something behind the scenes that isn't right. How can we be so bad for so long? Things are getting worse if anything. It's getting to the point now where I'd just tell some of these players that they're done in an England shirt and they won't be picked again. Itoje looked like a superstar in that semi final four years ago and in actual fact it was probably the last time he played well for England.
Just been having this conversation. What is it? Players over the hill/ out of form, or the coaches e.g. wrong game plan or players failure to execute?
 
Honestly hope we don't make it out of the group.

At least I'll be able to enjoy some of it without watching this trash.
 
Even less a shocking upgrade than last weeks one.
 
One of those full games we never look like losing but we also don't wow. Can't complain though it's the result we would expect from a warmup. They're always dull
 

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