How many players do you think the Squad will be...?

[GimleyUK]

A rough guess but im thinking based on the playes and what Geechs took last tour to SA in 97:

5 Props

3 Hookers

4 Second Rows

2 Opensides

2 Blind Sides

3 Number 8s

3 Scrum Halves

2 FlyHalves

2 Inside Centers

3 Outside Centers

4 Wingers

2 Full Backs

2 Utility Backs

And who would your squad be ?

 

[GimleyUK]

This is who I think they'll take. This is not my personal preference but who I think they'll go for

Props
Gethin Jenkins
Andrew Sheridan
John Hayes
Euan Murray
Adam Jones

Hookers
Flannery
Best
Mears

2nd Rows
POC
AW Jones
D O'C
Hines

Open sides
Wallace
Williams

Blind Sides
Croft
Ferris

8s
Jamie Heaslip
Dan Ward-Smith
Ryan Jones

Scrumhalves
Phillips
Peel/O Leary (Dependent on Peels Fitness)
Blair

Flyhalves
S Jones
R O'Gara

Inside Centers
Henson/Flutey (Dependent on Henson's Fitness)
D'Arcy

Outside Centers
BOD
Roberts
Shanklin

Wingers
Bowe
Cueto
Williams
Sackey

FullBacks
Byrne
Kearney

Utility Backs
Hook
Cipriani

 

[MunsterMan]

If I was in charge:

Props:
Gethin Jenkins
Euan Murray
Adam Jones
Marcu Horan
John Hayes

Hookers:
Rory Best
Jerry Flannery
Ross Ford/Lee Mears

Second Row:
Paul O'Connell
Alun Wyn Jones
Donnacha O'Callaghan
Nathan Hines/Ian Gough

Open Side:
Martyn Williams
David Wallace

Blind Side:
Stephen Ferris
Tom Croft

Number Eight:
Ryan Jones
Jamie Heaslip
Denis Leamy

Scrumhalf:
Mike Blair
Mike Phillips
Tomás O'Leary

Fly Half:
Stephen Jones
Ronan O'Gara

Inside Centre:
Riki Flutey
Gordan D'arcy

Outside Centre:
Brian O'Driscoll
Tom Shanklin
Jamie Roberts

Wings:
Tommy Bowe
Mark Cueto
Shane Williams
Luke Fitzgerald

Fullback:
Lee Byrne
Delon armitage

Utility Backs:
Rob Kearney
Max Evans/Keith Earls (sorry lads, but Henson won't be fit enough, he would be there otherwise)

hat's who I'd pick, now you tell me why I am wrong, I tell you you're wrong etc etc.

 

[GimleyUK]

This is my choice, as I said the team above is who i think they will take. And I'll presume Henson is Injured and unavailable as you have. Otherwise he would have been my first choice 12.

Props
G Jenkins
D. Jones
M. Horan
A. Jones
E. Murray

Hookers
J. Flannery
D. Hartley
R. Best

Second Rows
P.O'Connel
AW Jones
D. O'Callaghan
N. Hines

Blindsides
S. Ferris
T. Croft
J. Thomas

Open Sides
M. Williams
D. Wallace

8s
R.Jones
J.Heaslip


9s
Peel
Cooper
Cusiter

10s
S. Jones
R. OGara

Inside Centers
Gavin Evans
G. D'Arcy
D. Bishop

Outside
B. O'Driscoll
T. Shanklin

Wingers
T. James
T. Bowe
S. Williams
U. Monye
L. Fitzgerald


Fullbacks
L Byne
R Kearney
M. Stodard

Utility Backs
J Roberts
D Cipriani
J Hook

 

[An Tarbh]

well you've both picked 2 more than Geech but meh.

Anyway here's who I think will go, not want to see go.

Props:
Gethin Jenkins, Andrew Sherridan, Euan Murray, Adam Jones, Phil Vickery

Hookers:
Jerry Flannery, Rory Best, Lee Mears

Locks:
POC, DOC, Wyn Jones, Shaw

Backrow:
Martyn Williams, David Wallace, Stephen Ferris, Ryan Jones, Jamie Heaslip, Tom Croft

Scrum halves:
Mike Phillips, Dwayne Peel, Danny Care

Outhalves:
Stephen Jones, Ronan O'Gara, Danny Cipriani

Centres:
BOD, Fluetey, Shanklin, Roberts

Wings
Bowe, Sackey, Fitzgerland, Williams

Fullbacks:
Byrne, Armitage, Kearney

 

[An Tarbh]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GimleyUK @ Apr 6 2009, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

This is my choice, as I said the team above is who i think they will take. And I'll presume Henson is Injured and unavailable as you have. Otherwise he would have been my first choice 12.[/b]

Even fit though there's no logic in pairing 2 players together who can't stand each other, it's an either/or decision not both.

 

[Bluemoon]

Cant Disagree with much of them An Tarbh. I think you may see Lewsey there aswell. Ive just got a weird feeling a wasp contingency will be present. Like Cipriani and Lewsey. Cipriani couldnt make it to the England team so god help us if he makes it to the lions...

Props:
Gethin Jenkins, Andrew Sherridan, Euan Murray, Adam Jones, Phil Vickery

Hookers:
Jerry Flannery, Rory Best, Lee Mears

Locks:
POC, Wyn Jones, DOC, Shaw,

Backrow:
Martyn Williams, David Wallace, Stephen Ferris, Ryan Jones, Jamie Heaslip, Tom Croft

Scrum halves:
Mike Phillips, Dwayne Peel, Mike Blair

Outhalves:
Stephen Jones, Ronan O'Gara

Centres:
BOD, Fluetey, Shanklin, Roberts

Wings
Bowe, Sackey, Williams, Lewsey.

Fullbacks:
Byrne, Armitage, Kearney

 

[An Tarbh]

meant to put Cipriani in at 10, still think he'll tour and should then play himself into the test side if he shows any form.

 

[monkeypigeon]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GimleyUK @ Apr 6 2009, 01:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Utility Backs
Hook
Cipriani[/b]

Hook yes, but I couldn't agree with Cribiani as a Utility back. There're far better utility players available. Being from Munster (and having again witnessed his ALL ENCOMPASSING power again at the weekend) I'd say Earls ahead of him, wouldn't mind seeing Lewsey there, I can see Jamie Roberts playing anywhere from 11-15.

I'd even say Flood ahead of Cribiani at this stage.

edit: And lets not forget the faultless Barry Murphy.
<<<<<<<

 

[Meh]

If there's any justice in the world then Danny Cipriani won't go on the tour at all.

Unless he comes and plays a blinder, which I doubt, then all will be forgiven.

I think the fly halves will/should be (unless Wilko comes back) Jones, O'Gara and perhaps Hook.

 

[An Tarbh]

he's not played international rugby in over a year, McGeechan said he wouldn't be taking any players who were half fit or coming back from injury with little game time under their belt, sadly for the pair of them that's the case with Wilkinson and Henson.

 

[gingergenius]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GimleyUK @ Apr 6 2009, 09:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

This is my choice, as I said the team above is who i think they will take. And I'll presume Henson is Injured and unavailable as you have. Otherwise he would have been my first choice 12.

Props
G Jenkins
D. Jones
M. Horan
A. Jones
E. Murray

Hookers
J. Flannery
D. Hartley
R. Best

Second Rows
P.O'Connel
AW Jones
D. O'Callaghan
N. Hines

Blindsides
S. Ferris
T. Croft
J. Thomas

Open Sides
M. Williams
D. Wallace

8s
R.Jones
J.Heaslip


9s
Peel
Cooper
Cusiter

10s
S. Jones
R. OGara

Inside Centers
Gavin Evans
G. D'Arcy
D. Bishop

Outside
B. O'Driscoll
T. Shanklin

Wingers
T. James
T. Bowe
S. Williams
U. Monye
L. Fitzgerald


Fullbacks
L Byne
R Kearney
M. Stodard

Utility Backs
J Roberts
D Cipriani
J Hook[/b]

Makes no sense at all taking half a touring party full of Welsh players who couldn't even get into a side that came 4th in the 6 Nations.

You might as well take half a touring party full of Wasps players that came 10th in the GP...

 

[Jer1cho]

You guys really think Cipriani is gonna make the tour? I think it would be a huge mistake to field him against the Springboks, or am i wrong? Has he even ever played in South Africa?

 

[An Tarbh]

there'll be plenty who haven't played in SA that's hardly going to be used against him.

 

[GimleyUK]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Apr 6 2009, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

there'll be plenty who haven't played in SA that's hardly going to be used against him.[/b]

Exactly

I pick my selection on players who i think are gifted and intelligent in their decision

Hense Gavin Evans, best option if Henson doesnt go.

 

[GimleyUK]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (An Tarbh @ Apr 6 2009, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Even fit though there's no logic in pairing 2 players together who can't stand each other, it's an either/or decision not both.[/b]

If both BOD and Henson were fit i would be basing a team around Henson over BOD.

Henson is that good.

But even if he scrapes through this injury with enough time to make the last rounds of the heineken cup with the ospreys, then i would be surprised if he hit form quick enough to be taken as a safe bet.

Then again all the world top coaches rate him so highly that i wouldnt be very surprised if the Coaches make an exception to their injured players rule and select him.

my theory on that previous statement is that in Wales we all understand that Gatland, Howley and Edwards will sell their grandmothers, mothers sisters, wives and kids willingly and cheaply to be able to pick a fit Gavin Henson. And to be honest i would say that most people who have watched him since he started playing at swansea as a 16 year old would definatly agree.

 

[GimleyUK]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gingergenius @ Apr 6 2009, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Makes no sense at all taking half a touring party full of Welsh players who couldn't even get into a side that came 4th in the 6 Nations.

You might as well take half a touring party full of Wasps players that came 10th in the GP...[/b]

I think the idea is to select the players for a squad that would be most likely to beat the Bokks.

I cant really comment much more on what you wrote, as your statement is really just another reflection of your intellect.

 

[durbutter]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GimleyUK @ Apr 6 2009, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

But even if he scrapes through this injury with enough time to make the last rounds of the heineken cup with the ospreys.......[/b]

You mean the Magners league

 

[GimleyUK]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (noidsay @ Apr 6 2009, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

You mean the Magners league [/b]

thought one of you would notice...! ha ha ha...! we'll see... i certainly dont expect to win at Thormund Park but i know we definatly can.

If anything i think its fair to say the ospreys really deserve a bit of luck, they have had very little this year, with injuries etc, and the miracle of becoming a great team over night and beating munster and going on towards the final is not just a dream it is a possibility, but we need our luck to change.

Even though after the Ulster match it really may seem like we need a miracle.


ha ha ha

 

[An Tarbh]

you've got Wayne Barnes on Sunday which is a start and tis an appropriate time of year for miracles.