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So the underdog is under more pressure? That's generally not how things work in sport. The fact that England fans expect England to get out of the group (rightly imo) is where the pressure comes from.

Wales have beaten Aus before as well. It's been a while, but imo we're due a result against them. May as well come when it really matters in the WC :p
 
So the underdog is under more pressure? That's generally not how things work in sport. The fact that England fans expect England to get out of the group (rightly imo) is where the pressure comes from.

Wales aren't the underdog though are they? England Wales and Australia are all teams that should be expecting to get out of the pool and mounting strong challenges for the cup. i'm not sure you can qualify any of them as underdogs.

Wales have beaten Aus before as well. It's been a while, but imo we're due a result against them. May as well come when it really matters in the WC :p

yes, you're right, i actually meant away from home... but you did actually beat them once in Australia and once in NZ so i stand corrected (slightly) on that one.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway, we'll have to agree to disagree on the pressure point.
 
Wales aren't the underdog though are they? England Wales and Australia are all teams that should be expecting to get out of the pool and mounting strong challenges for the cup. i'm not sure you can qualify any of them as underdogs.



yes, you're right, i actually meant away from home... but you did actually beat them once in Australia and once in NZ so i stand corrected (slightly) on that one.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway, we'll have to agree to disagree on the pressure point.

Yeah, no need to discuss it any further.

These are probably the main focus points on the group:

- England. How much have the still relatively inexperienced English players learn't in the losses in the crunch games in the 6 nations over the past few years? They've been close to GS'm or championship wins, but haven't quite managed to get over the line in the games which mattered. Whilst being reasonably consistent for a while, finishing runners up etc., they've had one poor game per championship which has cost them.

All the ingredients seem to be there. They've got a strong pack with plenty of depth, although possibly still missing the out and out openside which Wales and Aus possess (more than one in fact). Youngs is back playing well at 9, and they've unearthed a real gem at 10 in Gorge Ford. The outside backs are looking exciting, if a little unsettled at 12 and wing.

Playing at home is obviously a big boost.


- Australia. Can Aus bounce back from the poor run of form they've been in? They've slipped down the world rankings and have been inconsistent during a period of chopping and changing in the coaching department.

The talent is there, particularly in the backrow and backs.

- Wales. Can Wales put their recent run against England behind them? Can we finally get over the line against Aus? Realistically, we should have beaten Aus on numerous occasions over the past few years, can we do it when it counts? Beating SA in the autumn will have given the players extra confidence, but Aus are very different.

There's big question marks over our scrum, with Lee struggling to be fit, let alone match fit, and a lack of alternatives. Elsewhere though, things are looking healthy. The back 5 of the pack are powerful and balanced. Webb and Biggar are in the form of their lives. Davies is getting back to his old self after struggling initially to break into the Clermont starting 15, and there's a good balance in the back 3 with North, Halfpenny and Williams (however they line up).


So there's questions each nation need to answer. Going into the tourny England and Aus will be favorites to get out of the group. Recent results between the 3 dictate it. But that doesn't mean I believe Wales won't get through. I think we can finally beat Aus, and it will have depended on the result of the Wales v England game on who tops the pool. I am biased though....
 
You can think what you want, but you're wrong.

Wales have a History of losing in the pool stages, and to small teams, they have an even bigger history of losing to Australia. The pressure placed on them of not choking again will be way higher than Englands who English fans will just expect to get out of the pool stages.

Ergo the public pressure will be there way before the World Cup for Wales, but won't for England, England can just come into it and do their job - Wales come into it with Decades of underachieving at the world cup behind them and the prospect of playing a team they have never ever beaten to qualify.

Also, who are the only home nation to fail to get out of their group?

Don't tell me I'm wrong you arrogant tw**t, lets wait and see.
 
Don't tell me I'm wrong you arrogant tw**t, lets wait and see.
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Don't tell me I'm wrong you arrogant tw**t, lets wait and see.

It saddens me to see your focused hatred of English in your posts over the last few months.

I would like to apologise on behalf of my fellow English countrymen for any hurt or injustice that has caused you to feel this way.

I hope this helps you heal your bottommost pain. So we can actually enjoy discussing our shared love of the game of rugby.

Thank you
 
It saddens me to see your focused hatred of English in your posts over the last few months.

I would like to apologise on behalf of my fellow English countrymen for any hurt or injustice that has caused you to feel this way.

I hope this helps you heal your bottommost pain. So we can actually enjoy discussing our shared love of the game of rugby.

Thank you
I love it more you arrogant ********.
 
I feel the All Blacks weak point is the front row and teams will try attack our scrums and from driving mauls. England and SA in particular.
 
I most excited about group A. Really just cannot call it, and being neutral makes it even better. England could either choke on the pressure, or thrive on it. Wales could feed off the underdog tag or live up to it. Aus? Who the hell knows?

The thing is, I can't see any of these three teams winning the World Cup.
 
actually pretty confident england should smash the group stages
 
I have zero expectations about the French team. Unlike some that have talked themselves up and will feel the pressure. Pressure and too much expectations can play funny tricks to even the best teams. The AB are always favourite and rightly so. But it took them 20 yrs to win a 2nd WC because of huge pressure and expectations on them. We certainly won't be in that situation!

I am looking forward to the World Cup and hopefully some cracking games. I'm taking my young rugby son to the event so I'm looking forward to it. The games & atmosphere are worth the trip alone.

But I won't be travelling with misplaced expectations. If we do well, great. If we don't, no stress because the fallout of an early exit will be minimal on the game here. Watch for a nice big collective Gallic shrug.. After the last 4 years fans are well prepared, probably better than the players themselves!

They can do well if they don't listen to the staff. I believe they're no longer listening. We have done well in previous WCups because there was little pressure and expectation unlike other nations. This was true in 1995 1999 2003 2011 with 2 finals and 2 semis out of the blue so to speak. In 2007 we played at home and it showed.

I'm confident we will surprise a big side when they least expect it.
 
I most excited about group A. Really just cannot call it, and being neutral makes it even better. England could either choke on the pressure, or thrive on it. Wales could feed off the underdog tag or live up to it. Aus? Who the hell knows?

The thing is, I can't see any of these three teams winning the World Cup.

Australia have the wood over Wales, but honestly - if Australia's form from last year is anything to go by then forget about it. I know in World Cups anything can happen, but there would have to be a dramatic improvement imo. Can't see them beating England - maybe a few years ago but not at the moment, don't think Aus have the forwards for it. And against Wales anything could happen, but Wales have shown what they are capable of in that part of the world.

I'm pretty confident obviously, but cautious as well. With Cruden being out, I wouldn't want Slade, Barrett or Carter to go down. We have Taylor who has been in the environment before, and Sopoaga down at the Highlanders in good form but if we can avoid that situation it'd be good. It's just a matter of not taking any team for granted (particularly in the quarters and semis) and hoping the injury toll doesn't blow out. Guys like Retallick and Coles are pretty key and they've picked up injuries this season. Also need to watch the penalties with McCaw at the breakdown, and Crockett at the scrum (if he's selected over Woodcock).
 
I'm pretty confident obviously, but cautious as well. With Cruden being out, I wouldn't want Slade, Barrett or Carter to go down. We have Taylor who has been in the environment before, and Sopoaga down at the Highlanders in good form but if we can avoid that situation it'd be good. It's just a matter of not taking any team for granted (particularly in the quarters and semis) and hoping the injury toll doesn't blow out. Guys like Retallick and Coles are pretty key and they've picked up injuries this season. Also need to watch the penalties with McCaw at the breakdown, and Crockett at the scrum (if he's selected over Woodcock).

McCaw? Penalised at breakdowns? Blasphemy!
 
Have you not been watching Super Rugby this year?

The refs have been very unforgiving towards him...

Refs have been very unforgiving with all NZ teams, not being bias either. We have to watch our scrum and breakdowns at the WC.
 
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