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As a Sale Fan i would love him to move to Sale, if he were to play at inside centre it would give him a better chance for england while also giving something Sale and that's good ball from the midfield to the back three.

BM
 
The message is that he's waiting to see how Bath manage to recruit for next season. If we can get a couple of notable signings then that will serve as a signal to Barkley that the club is ambitious and is going somewhere.

The Berne signing shouldn't be seen as a replacement for Barkley, as the offer's been on the table since December, way before Barkley started deciding what he was going to do.

It really comes down to what position Barkley wants to play (apparently in terms of money, he wants to be on a par with Grewcock, our highest paid player, which is reasonable). He never used to like playing at 12 when Connolly started him there, and always favoured 10. We've signed Berne and Eliota Fuimaono, who are both natural 12s, which would mean that 10 would be between Barkley, Dunne and Malone (no contest). If he goes to Sale, he'd be playing 12 all the time, which would increase his England chances. It depends on whether he thinks he can be a better 10 than Hodgson and get in the England team that way.

After spending the last three years basically just kicking and barely getting the ball in his hands, you can understand why Barkley would look at a team like Sale and be interested. But the improvement in Bath's approach to the game has come on leaps and bounds since Ashton came back, and they will only improve next season when he's got a close-season to recruit and train the way he wants.

It's a big decision for Barkley. Missing out on Europe through the Powergen Cup may just cost us.
 
As he's not half the player Hodgson is, expect to see him playing outside half for Bath next year and wearing the no 10 for England as of next season.

Seriously though, behind Charlie, Goode and Wilkinson (if he's ever fit again), he's got no hope of wearing 10 in a white shirt. Than at 12 he's got players like Abbott (and Tindall I guess, who'll be wearing an England shirt for every game untill the 2nd coming <_< ), it's unlikely he'll ever get a look in for inside centre.

I always thought he's over rated and he's never done enough to command an 'elite player' status IMO.
 
Well, consider Robinson admitted that Barkley would have started at 12 against Wales before he injured himself, and that Abbott and Tindall were both fit at that time, it shows that he would get a look in.

He's ahead of Goode in Robinson's ranking. When Barkley was fit he was No.2 to Hodgson. It's only since he's been injured, or since MVG got dropped, that Goode's really got a look in.

Didn't you once say that you could 'hang with Barkley'? We'll see you in an England shirt sometime soon then, shall we?
 
I don't recall ever saying that. If you can find a record that says otherwise, I was probberbly ******.

On the 'Robinson said he'd play' arguement, hardly helping his case is it? Barkley should be the 3rd or 4th choice for both positions at best.
 
Originally posted by Teh Mite@Mar 13 2006, 01:41 AM
I don't recall ever saying that. If you can find a record that says otherwise, I was probberbly ******.
It was on the old forum.

'Probberbly ******.' Are you ****** now?
 
The old forum?

I was never a member on the old forum. I didn't even now there was an old forum.
 
There were a couple which went down and had to be rebuilt. If it wasn't on one of those it was too long ago to still be on this one.
 
If i was Barkley and heard about the competition at Bath, i would pluck at sitting at 12 at Sale and when Charlie goes to England take up the 10 shirt. Something he may not get at Bath, because of the influx of Kolpakkers and Tired old internationals.

BM
 
Originally posted by Black-Monday@Mar 13 2006, 02:17 AM
If i was Barkley and heard about the competition at Bath, i would pluck at sitting at 12 at Sale and when Charlie goes to England take up the 10 shirt. Something he may not get at Bath, because of the influx of Kolpakkers and Tired old internationals.

BM
But surely Barkley would be aiming to be away with England whenever Hodgson is.

I don't know what you mean by 'Kolpakkers,' but I'm assuming the 'tired old international' jibe is aimed at Berne. The guy's 27, has spent 6 years with the Waratahs, and before that spent 2 and a half years with us. Fuimaono is 25, and just broken through an international level.

As for the rest of the backs; Matt Perry's 29, still England's most capped fullback and a British Lion; David Bory turned 30 this week and played in the last World Cup; Joe Maddock, Lee Best, Chris Malone 28; Crockett, Higgins 24; Ryan Davis 20; Tom Cheeseman 19; Stephenson 25; Nick Walshe 31; Andy Williams 25; Martin Wood 28. Salesi Finau is out oldest back 32, and he's only on a one season deal to help out with injuries.

A total of three backs aged 30 or over. Hardly 'tired' and 'old.'
 
That comment was more generally against Southern Hemisphere'ers and the general influx at most clubs, Malone counts for this. I am not a fan of having too many in our leagues as they will get used to our style of game too much.

BM
 
You do know that a Kiwi or an Aussie that doesn't play in their home country isn't allowed to play for the national team?
 
Originally posted by Black-Monday@Mar 13 2006, 04:49 AM
That comment was more generally against Southern Hemisphere'ers and the general influx at most clubs, Malone counts for this. I am not a fan of having too many in our leagues as they will get used to our style of game too much.

BM
You don't want them here because, what, they'll report back to the Southern Hemisphere and our great secret will be revealed? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Malone has a British passport. He played at Exeter for two years, and is in his third or fourth year at Bath, so he qualifies on residency. If anything, he plays more like a typical NH flyhalf than a SH playmaker.
 
Were we? Really? Got Proof? So, he goes to Saints; He's going to oust Spencer or Quinlan? Or maybe Leicester? He'll oust Goode or Smith? Or what about Sale? Hodgson or Todd to stand aside?

Doubt it.

Or is this the same as "I could stand toe to toe with him", you know, that other cock-and-bull story you claim I said?

Anywhay, there are many better fly halfs/centres out there than Barkley, it's just the Bath Mafia that argue against that.
 
Reported in Bath Chronicle

Must have come from somewhere.

Meanwhile Barkley, now established as an England option at inside centre, is reportedly being tracked by Leicester and Northampton as well as Sale.
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Maybe it wasn't you who said 'I could hang with Barkley,' but it was one of the Saints fans. I just took from your completely unfounded criticism of him that it was probably you. If it wasn't I stand corrected.

Todd's leaving Sale and Smith is a 13, so neither of them would have been in competition with Barkley had he left.

What exactly is the 'Bath mafia'? Is that the three Bath fans on the forum?
 
Trust me Todd could get shifted by a sack of mouldy potatoes. He is useless, a stop gap you may want to call him, while we get a decent 12 in. Something that has been lacking in our game.

BM
 
Yes! Jonny Howard has signed a 2 year contract.

Woop-de-f***ing-doo <_<

Why won't he just go away?
 

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