As ive said before, its not that I would prefer an arcade RL game to a simulation. I wouldnt. Its just the fact that In this case I think RL1 offers more challenge and control in gameplay than RL2 so at this point im stuck with more aracadey gameplay.Originally posted by esoj+Dec 14 2005, 08:43 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (esoj @ Dec 14 2005, 08:43 AM)</div>you seem to talk rc2006 up a lot but maybe thats just me. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on rl 2 as I like it more than the first one but you disagree and prefer the arcade style of the first 1. rl 2 does have bugs for sure but I know rugby 2005 has a lot more and has a crap franchise system in comparision to rl 2. I do hope rc2006 lives up to the mark you Locksley and SHRLFC have set for it otherwise the fall could be worse than that of rl 2. rugby 2006 i really don't hold much hope for but hopefully the rumoured demo comes out before release and that maybe due to the competition of swordfish and sidhe they rasie their game [/b]@Dec 13 2005, 08:28 PM
I'm not trying to knock esoj personally, I just feel that there were people of his sympathetic nature in the testing room giving the feedback in a "hugs first" style.
lol since i read this after my birthday officaly finished i will let it slide. I work for sidhe anyway
knowsley how can you say you like rl 1 more that was so arcadey and non-league like. it was unbelievably easy to score tries even on legend difficulty. rl 2 is a challenge to score and if this isn't your style and you prefer the acrade style of the first one then so be it. since we are in the whole comparison thing i think rl 2 is like blic it feels like your playing cricket while cricket 2005 seems like an arcade game that is out of it's depth
rc2006 and rugby 2006 may well be better than rl 2 and i hope they are but until then imo anyway rl 2 is the best there is and not rl 1. comparing to other sports games is fair enough i guess but you havee to compare to similar type of sports games and pes 5 will basically thrash everything proabbly even the much hyped by knowsleyroader rc 2006. but thats just it isn't pes 5 is the fifth version and fifa its 5th or 6 compared to version 2 of rugby league and of the swordfish series. rugby league though imo is a lot further a long than when the likes of fifa started out.
When the likes of fifa started out we were in a different world.
Are you suggesting that the RL franchise should have started out with 3d isometric graphics ?
My opinion is of course only that and no kind of definitive " This is how things are " to anyone but in my view RL2 has took a step back from RL1 in many ways.
The difficulty certainly isnt as challenging in my opinon. The kicking and ball physics arnt as good. The grubber kicks in my opinion are no where near as useful. The bounce of the ball far flatter than before. The control is no where near as good as RL1. Serious problems in the franchise with frequency and severity of injuries. Far too many random knock ons. Wingers stood in touch. I could go on and on.
Its not that I like an arcade fest of a rugby leauge game in fact I will agree that you are right in that RL1 is a bit arcady but in no way do I feel this has been resolved in RL2. They have taken a different tact and in my opinion it hasnt come anywhere close to working.
Give me a more simulation RL game anyday over an arcady option but RL2 im afraid doesnt satisfy my needs.
I also certainly havent gone out of my way to hype RC2006 its just the way I saw it and I think you will find that Lox and SHRLFC both thought pretty much the same thing as me that it was a very, very good game. Correct me if im wrong you guys.
I had a good play on RL2 and kept coming back one last time to see if there was just something I was missing but my final conclusion was I wasnt missing anything at all. Least of all gameplay.
Maybe I do talk up RC2006 because I really liked the game and everyone is aware that its only my opinion. They should also be aware that we didnt get to spend extended time with the game so it is only a limited opinion.Originally posted by esoj+Dec 14 2005, 08:43 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (esoj @ Dec 14 2005, 08:43 AM)</div>you seem to talk rc2006 up a lot but maybe thats just me. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on rl 2 as I like it more than the first one but you disagree and prefer the arcade style of the first 1. rl 2 does have bugs for sure but I know rugby 2005 has a lot more and has a crap franchise system in comparision to rl 2. I do hope rc2006 lives up to the mark you Locksley and SHRLFC have set for it otherwise the fall could be worse than that of rl 2. rugby 2006 i really don't hold much hope for but hopefully the rumoured demo comes out before release and that maybe due to the competition of swordfish and sidhe they rasie their game [/b]@Dec 13 2005, 08:28 PM
I'm not trying to knock esoj personally, I just feel that there were people of his sympathetic nature in the testing room giving the feedback in a "hugs first" style.
lol since i read this after my birthday officaly finished i will let it slide. I work for sidhe anyway
knowsley how can you say you like rl 1 more that was so arcadey and non-league like. it was unbelievably easy to score tries even on legend difficulty. rl 2 is a challenge to score and if this isn't your style and you prefer the acrade style of the first one then so be it. since we are in the whole comparison thing i think rl 2 is like blic it feels like your playing cricket while cricket 2005 seems like an arcade game that is out of it's depth
rc2006 and rugby 2006 may well be better than rl 2 and i hope they are but until then imo anyway rl 2 is the best there is and not rl 1. comparing to other sports games is fair enough i guess but you havee to compare to similar type of sports games and pes 5 will basically thrash everything proabbly even the much hyped by knowsleyroader rc 2006. but thats just it isn't pes 5 is the fifth version and fifa its 5th or 6 compared to version 2 of rugby league and of the swordfish series. rugby league though imo is a lot further a long than when the likes of fifa started out.
When the likes of fifa started out we were in a different world.
Are you suggesting that the RL franchise should have started out with 3d isometric graphics ?
My opinion is of course only that and no kind of definitive " This is how things are " to anyone but in my view RL2 has took a step back from RL1 in many ways.
The difficulty certainly isnt as challenging in my opinon. The kicking and ball physics arnt as good. The grubber kicks in my opinion are no where near as useful. The bounce of the ball far flatter than before. The control is no where near as good as RL1. Serious problems in the franchise with frequency and severity of injuries. Far too many random knock ons. Wingers stood in touch. I could go on and on.
Its not that I like an arcade fest of a rugby leauge game in fact I will agree that you are right in that RL1 is a bit arcady but in no way do I feel this has been resolved in RL2. They have taken a different tact and in my opinion it hasnt come anywhere close to working.
Give me a more simulation RL game anyday over an arcady option but RL2 im afraid doesnt satisfy my needs.
I also certainly havent gone out of my way to hype RC2006 its just the way I saw it and I think you will find that Lox and SHRLFC both thought pretty much the same thing as me that it was a very, very good game. Correct me if im wrong you guys.
I have confidence that Rugby Challenge will be a great game, because as much as I disliked WCR, it was clear that there only needed to be a few changes to make it a classic! But I do hope that there is more to learn with play after 5 mins.Originally posted by knowsleyroader+Dec 14 2005, 07:38 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (knowsleyroader @ Dec 14 2005, 07:38 PM)</div>Maybe I do talk up RC2006 because I really liked the game and everyone is aware that its only my opinion. They should also be aware that we didnt get to spend extended time with the game so it is only a limited opinion.@Dec 13 2005, 08:28 PM
I'm not trying to knock esoj personally, I just feel that there were people of his sympathetic nature in the testing room giving the feedback in a "hugs first" style.
lol since i read this after my birthday officaly finished i will let it slide. I work for sidhe anyway
knowsley how can you say you like rl 1 more that was so arcadey and non-league like. it was unbelievably easy to score tries even on legend difficulty. rl 2 is a challenge to score and if this isn't your style and you prefer the acrade style of the first one then so be it. since we are in the whole comparison thing i think rl 2 is like blic it feels like your playing cricket while cricket 2005 seems like an arcade game that is out of it's depth
rc2006 and rugby 2006 may well be better than rl 2 and i hope they are but until then imo anyway rl 2 is the best there is and not rl 1. comparing to other sports games is fair enough i guess but you havee to compare to similar type of sports games and pes 5 will basically thrash everything proabbly even the much hyped by knowsleyroader rc 2006. but thats just it isn't pes 5 is the fifth version and fifa its 5th or 6 compared to version 2 of rugby league and of the swordfish series. rugby league though imo is a lot further a long than when the likes of fifa started out.
When the likes of fifa started out we were in a different world.
Are you suggesting that the RL franchise should have started out with 3d isometric graphics ?
My opinion is of course only that and no kind of definitive " This is how things are " to anyone but in my view RL2 has took a step back from RL1 in many ways.
The difficulty certainly isnt as challenging in my opinon. The kicking and ball physics arnt as good. The grubber kicks in my opinion are no where near as useful. The bounce of the ball far flatter than before. The control is no where near as good as RL1. Serious problems in the franchise with frequency and severity of injuries. Far too many random knock ons. Wingers stood in touch. I could go on and on.
Its not that I like an arcade fest of a rugby leauge game in fact I will agree that you are right in that RL1 is a bit arcady but in no way do I feel this has been resolved in RL2. They have taken a different tact and in my opinion it hasnt come anywhere close to working.
Give me a more simulation RL game anyday over an arcady option but RL2 im afraid doesnt satisfy my needs.
I also certainly havent gone out of my way to hype RC2006 its just the way I saw it and I think you will find that Lox and SHRLFC both thought pretty much the same thing as me that it was a very, very good game. Correct me if im wrong you guys.
you seem to talk rc2006 up a lot but maybe thats just me. I guess we will have to agree to disagree on rl 2 as I like it more than the first one but you disagree and prefer the arcade style of the first 1. rl 2 does have bugs for sure but I know rugby 2005 has a lot more and has a crap franchise system in comparision to rl 2. I do hope rc2006 lives up to the mark you Locksley and SHRLFC have set for it otherwise the fall could be worse than that of rl 2. rugby 2006 i really don't hold much hope for but hopefully the rumoured demo comes out before release and that maybe due to the competition of swordfish and sidhe they rasie their game
However what I can tell you is you can pick up RC2006 and start having fun immidiately.
Will it last the distance ? Even I dont know that as I didnt really get good enough to challenge the AI, but I could only forsee possibly one major gripe and that is if it became too easy after extended play. [/b]
I basically covered it again because someone couldnt understand why I liked RL1 more than RL2. I thus explained why. Point taken though.
Maybe someone can tweak the frequency and severity of injuries ? Or maybe it will get to the point where they are just as well turned off ?
Sold my copy, although Lox has popped round once or twice and made me play it
I really did try to like it, although I really dont think you should have to try to like a game.
I can think of quite a few Rugby games that I just picked up and played without even thinking about trying to like it.
Ask Eddie Jones
I must have a charmed run or something as i have had under 10 injuries and i am into my third yeah in franchise. the longest being out for 8 weeks. so this thing about injuries destroying franchise is a load of crap from my perspective. it's proabbly from people not altering traning or using their squad properly. if you buy smart i would say you should easily be able to get at least 20 players if not more. I currently have 21 but proabbly could have gotten 2 more if I didn't offer one or 2 players so much money. franchise is awesome and defintely worth getting the game for.
Numerous people have been fired for not being able to field a team due to injury so you must be charmed as its obviously happening elsewhere.
Hire more players.
