Football is better than Rugby - FACT

[profitius]

When you think of it, not much really happens in a soccer game. The average amount of goals is around 3 which is one about every 30min, the goals are small so easy to defend, many goals involve luck rather than skill. Then you have players diving and argueing with referees. There are too many games which means its becoming very boring and teams spend a large part of the season not firing on all cylinders.


There might be more countries playing soccer but the champions league is usually won by a team from one of only 4 countries.

 

[Kiwiwomble]

OTAGO¡!!!!!!!!!

Otago just won the Ranfurly shield after 56 years, look up a video of the last few minutes and tell me that's not passion!

 

[yarmolinsky]

nooooo... I've missed such a discussion that I have so much to contribute... ((

 

[nickdnz]

OTAGO¡!!!!!!!!!

Otago just won the Ranfurly shield after 56 years, look up a video of the last few minutes and tell me that's not passion!

Congrats! It was pretty clearly Darwin who was preventing Otago from winning.

 

[j'nuh]

On a more serious level, I do actually think football has a great club system. Ignoring the game mechanics, I think that football has a great club system.

But just to put it out there. The football international game sucks.

The Euros and WC are fantastic tournaments. It's the two year wait where barely anything happens that bothers me. Compare England rugby to England football:

1. In a four year arc, England football have a Euros and WC to appear in, entry guaranteed to neither. England rugby fans have six tournaments (four 6Ns, one WC, one Lions tour) to look forward to.

2. Non-tournament football consists of friendlies that nobody really cares about and tournament qualifiers against crappy teams. Non-tournament rugby consists of tours against the top teams of the world.

3. For football, teams barely ever get to play their rivals. England football have played the likes of Germany, France and Spain about five times each in the last 13 years. A lot of these are friendlies, that neither team really cares for. With rugby, England play nearly every tier one team every single year during either tournaments or tours, and it fosters the most amazing rivalries. No way does England football have as strong a rival as England rugby have in Wales/France/Ireland.

4. Side note, let's not forget the corruption. Russia and Qatar to host World Cups? Give me a break...

My tip to football: give the top teams in the world automatic entry to the Euros/tournaments, and form an annual Six Nations equivalent between eg Spain, France, Germany, Italy, Netherlands, England, and have tours with teams such as Argentina and Brazil.

 

[sifplay]

I like football but love Rugby. Comparing the two is like comparing apples and oranges

 

[cyRil]

Bloody hell.

 

[dasNdanger]

Hello, I've come on here to debate... blah, blah, blah...*snipped for length*

You just wasted an awful lot of time trying to goad people into a fight, or to see how fast you would be banned. Smacks of frustrated virginity, it does.

My suggestion if you're still out there...step away from the computer, and go watch some football. Enjoy your game in your way, and we'll enjoy ours in our way.

(My guess, guys, is he's a Chelsea fan. They're all freakin' nuts.)


das

 

[Saints1]

Well he's been banned, so we'll never find out!

 

[icsulescool]

Hi. I read the whole thread and I have so many things I could say, but I don't want to waste my time with this because there are clearly more interesting topics on this forum. I will only talk about the situation in Romania which seems to be a Commenwealth nation from what this dude is saying.
Here s****r fans really know to make an atmosphere. They have some standard singings like "F**K Dinamo" (there is a rivalry between Steaua and Dinamo and Steaua fans sing almost every match), "Go on them, go on their mothers" (I hope the translation is prety accurate). Maybe in England s****r fans don't swear and are not as violent, but in the rest of the countries s****r fans are a mess. Maybe some rugby fans from Argentina (South American countries) can tell us about s****r referees being threatened with death (by mafia, by supporters or by "gambling mafia") if they don't advantage a team, but we have some cases too: Ionel Ganea .
Yes, the guy in black is a referee and he took a decision that Ganea didn't liked.

I was a s****r fan about 5 years ago so I can talk about both perspectives. I think I watched more s****r matches then rugby, but I never had my heart beating when watching a s****r match as it was beating when watching Romania - Scotland at the RWC (I woke up at 4 o'clock in the morning to watch that match) or Romania - Uruguay.
The RWC can't even be compared with the s****r world cup.

P.S.: In Romania I haven't heard of a rugby fan becoming a s****r fan, but there are so many s****r fans that become rugby fans. Even though rugby isn't as popular in the media, once you get's to understand the laws of this sport you can't get it out of your mind.

 

[dasNdanger]

Well he's been banned, so we'll never find out!

Shame that. Sometimes it's great fun to watch some fool make an idiot of himself. Of course, he pretty much did that in his first post.

Hi. I read the whole thread and I have so many things I could say, but I don't want to waste my time with this because there are clearly more interesting topics on this forum. I will only talk about the situation in Romania which seems to be a Commenwealth nation from what this dude is saying.
Here s****r fans really know to make an atmosphere. They have some standard singings like "F**K Dinamo" (there is a rivalry between Steaua and Dinamo and Steaua fans sing almost every match), "Go on them, go on their mothers" (I hope the translation is prety accurate). Maybe in England s****r fans don't swear and are not as violent, but in the rest of the countries s****r fans are a mess. Maybe some rugby fans from Argentina (South American countries) can tell us about s****r referees being threatened with death (by mafia, by supporters or by "gambling mafia") if they don't advantage a team, but we have some cases too: Ionel Ganea View attachment 2443.
Yes, the guy in black is a referee and he took a decision that Ganea didn't liked.

I was a s****r fan about 5 years ago so I can talk about both perspectives. I think I watched more s****r matches then rugby, but I never had my heart beating when watching a s****r match as it was beating when watching Romania - Scotland at the RWC (I woke up at 4 o'clock in the morning to watch that match) or Romania - Uruguay.
The RWC can't even be compared with the s****r world cup.

P.S.: In Romania I haven't heard of a rugby fan becoming a s****r fan, but there are so many s****r fans that become rugby fans. Even though rugby isn't as popular in the media, once you get's to understand the laws of this sport you can't get it out of your mind.

Nice perspective. One reason I've never been able to get into soccer is because of the fans. I feel fans are a reflection of the game. The fact that soccer/football fans often get into fights during matches and even riot, throw garbage on the pitch, hit players with objects, attack players with racial slurs and so much more tells me that though they may love their 'beautiful' game, they certainly don't respect it.

That's not to say that the same cannot or has not happened at a rugby match, but the incidents are few and far between and rarely make the news. I think the worst I've seen happen at a rugby match is when a fan tackled the referee during a SA game, and the occasional streaker. Rugby fans may not be as openly passionate during a match, but it's not because they aren't into the game, but because there's so much happening on the pitch they don't need to 'ole-ole' to make things exciting. I'm even thinking that - with the exception of the singing Welsh - the only time I've seen fans resort to Mexican waves and singing and such is when the rugby match is rather uneventful and there's nothing else to do.

And rugby IS a social game. I've been to local matches and people talk to one another. It's a very friendly atmosphere. I think that's reflected in the fans on all levels of the sport - it's not just a sporting event, but a social event as well. That certainly makes a difference in the way fans act in the stands.

das

 

[admartian]

Shame that. Sometimes it's great fun to watch some fool make an idiot of himself. Of course, he pretty much did that in his first post.



Nice perspective. One reason I've never been able to get into soccer is because of the fans. I feel fans are a reflection of the game. The fact that soccer/football fans often get into fights during matches and even riot, throw garbage on the pitch, hit players with objects, attack players with racial slurs and so much more tells me that though they may love their 'beautiful' game, they certainly don't respect it.

That's not to say that the same cannot or has not happened at a rugby match, but the incidents are few and far between and rarely make the news. I think the worst I've seen happen at a rugby match is when a fan tackled the referee during a SA game, and the occasional streaker. Rugby fans may not be as openly passionate during a match, but it's not because they aren't into the game, but because there's so much happening on the pitch they don't need to 'ole-ole' to make things exciting. I'm even thinking that - with the exception of the singing Welsh - the only time I've seen fans resort to Mexican waves and singing and such is when the rugby match is rather uneventful and there's nothing else to do.

And rugby IS a social game. I've been to local matches and people talk to one another. It's a very friendly atmosphere. I think that's reflected in the fans on all levels of the sport - it's not just a sporting event, but a social event as well. That certainly makes a difference in the way fans act in the stands.

das

I feel the same way. I'd say the NFL is similar to rugby in that respect. I've only ever seen/heard the crowd chant for a) when the opposing/away team's offense is on the field, b) disputing a ref's call, c) your team is the Cleveland Browns and you may as well start singing the pain away.

 

[Jaguares]

Football is for little women, rugby is for real men.

Football:

Rugby:

Go home, fool!

 

[Kiwiwomble]

http://www.skysport.co.nz/video/rugby-union/itm-cup-2013/otago-win-ranfurly-shield-65240/

watch this and tell me there was no pasison from the team

 

[admartian]

Stay classy SOCCER​.

Also, that horrible 'Hollywood' is what I despise about the game. I'd red card every bloody player I see doing it, until everyone stops doing it. Then maybe the sport can become watchable for me. Until then, I'm sticking to live tweets/live commentary.

 

[Rich Taff]

What's most sad is that this troll could have asked 'Why is Football more successful/popular than rugby?' and created a real debate.

 

[admartian]

What's most sad is that this troll could have asked 'Why is Football more successful/popular than rugby?' and created a real debate.

But that would require brains and objectivity.
*gasp!*

 

[Rich Taff]

I feel the same way. I'd say the NFL is similar to rugby in that respect. I've only ever seen/heard the crowd chant for a) when the opposing/away team's offense is on the field, b) disputing a ref's call, c) your team is the Cleveland Browns and you may as well start singing the pain away.

I've been to a couple of NFL Wembley games, and also went to watch the Fins v Steelers when I was a kid on holiday in Florida.
They actually put up on the vid screens 'make some noise' etc etc when the opposition is on offence, to try to drown out the QB's verbal changes. Was pretty much lost on people in Wembley, but about 10% started whistling etc.

Nothing beats the atmosphere in the millenium stadium with the roof closed though

(By the way, I'm living proof that the allegation 'all Welshmen can sing' is a lie! )

oh, and c) your team is the Cleveland Browns and you may as well start singing the pain away. is just mean

 

[admartian]

I've been to a couple of NFL Wembley games, and also went to watch the Fins v Steelers when I was a kid on holiday in Florida.
They actually put up on the vid screens 'make some noise' etc etc when the opposition is on offence, to try to drown out the QB's verbal changes. Was pretty much lost on people in Wembley, but about 10% started whistling etc.

Nothing beats the atmosphere in the millenium stadium with the roof closed though

(By the way, I'm living proof that the allegation 'all Welshmen can sing' is a lie! )

oh, and c) your team is the Cleveland Browns and you may as well start singing the pain away. is just mean

Haha, well that or the Jets. ;-)

 

[Rich Taff]

never mind. Darned alkeehol confusticating me again.