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canadian_rugger said:
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Invictus said:
Whilst this guy is obviously just a troll, I think it does open up a worthwhile discussion topic: What can football and rugby learn from one another? I'm going to run through the OP's points and use them as a guideline for my own analysis...

1) Rugby games are devoid of any atmosphere.
Having sat through an Aussie Rules game between Carlton and Collingwood I can completely appreciate how spectacular it is when the fan's are (obnoxiously) passionate. When you can hear the buzz of the crowd around you it's a magnificent thing, which rugby is obviously missing. That being said, this isn't always a good thing. I'd rather not have to put up with people shouting out cuss words and acting completely offended when the referee makes a call against their team (regardless of whether the call is correct or not). It's great how passionate people can get, but at the end of the day people have to realise it's only a game, which is where I think football goes over the top a lot of the time. Never should a game result in crowds having to be segregated due to fear they will attack one another.
Result: Tie. Passion is great, but over passionate crowds are problematic.

2) Rugby has low attendance for club matches.
There's no arguing with this. It would be interesting to compare numbers of how often each fan actually attends games for both sports. Because football is more popular it obviously has larger crowds, but is any individual football or rugby fan actually more likely to attend a much, or is it purely down to numbers? Due to the higher popularity of football, it's always going to win out.
Result: Football wins.

3) The world game.
More countries play football, definitely. As people have posted, however, it's dominated by European and South American nations. Whilst more countries play football, there is greater continental involvement in rugby. Football is much more accessible, so again will always win out in terms of pure viewership figures. I think rugby is moving towards being more internationally competitive - particularly with the increased interest from America and Asia. 7's at the Olympics is obviously a great step forward.
Result: Football wins. Rugby will never compete in terms of numbers, but it's a growing game.

4) Passion - already covered.

5) Rugby is played by people who can't play football.
Rugby is a game made for all body types, football is not. To say that only the rejects play rugby is a huge misnomer. Try chuck Ronaldo or Messi on a rugby field and see how well they do. It's not exactly like the props are just tubby lard buckets (well, some of em are). Even if rugby did accept more unfit players, I fail to see how this is a bad thing? They aren't going to make it professional, and it allows them to play a sport and keep fit.
Result: Rugby wins.

6) Fat potatoes and no skill.
You have to watch rugby regularly to appreciate the skills and strategies required. To suggest that it's simply potatoes running into potatoes suggests that any sorts of contact sports are complete rubbish (e.g. boxing is just two potatoes hitting each other, wrestling is just two potatoes hugging each other etc.). Whilst the core aspects of football may be more difficult (i.e. kicking the ball and controlling it with your fit via either passing or dribbling) than the core aspects of rugby, I'd actually suggest that at the higher level rugby is more strategic.
Result: Draw.

7) Rugby was created by a fat kid(?) - erm, ok...

8) Rugby is more gays - apparently touching another man is now gay.

9) Rugby players have to pass the ball backwards - I don't even see how this is something you can argue about, it's the nature of the game... Hurr durr football players can't touch the ball with their hands, they so silly.

10) Scores in rugby hold no significance.
So the argument here seems to be that because more points are scored in rugby the tries become less significant? I think that's a flawed way of looking at the game. I actually think rugby has the best balance between sports like soccer (where scores are very low) and basketball (where scores are very high). Whilst close games are great, at the end of the day the best stuff to watch is points being scored (in the form of tries obviously, not penalties). When the scores are all fairly homogeneous it's kind of boring (i.e. basketball) though, so rugby is a good balance, like I said.
Result: Rugby wins.

11) Yes, football players are paid more because they're more in demand.

12) Football is more popular - already discussed.

As mentioned by many others, rugby has other huge benefits (better use of technology, respect for referees [your passion argument is the biggest pile of crap I've ever seen, do you think rugby players aren't under pressure to win, do you think they have less desire??]). Someone mentioned football not changing its rules much is a bad thing, which I disagree with. Football is almost perfect, the rules don't need adjusting (except some penalties should be harsher). Rugby still has a way to go.

Just my thoughts - more could be said but I've got work to do :(
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Decent, don't agree but fair play.
 
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Rugbys argument on fans - Our fans aren't fanatic hardnuts therefore they are better because they aren't a nuisance.
Rugbys argument on players - Out players aren't pannsies therefore they are better because they take injuries better.
 
About to sign off for the night you'll be glad to know.

Invictus seems to be the only person capable of posting a decent response, I thought Rugby fans were clued up?

Giving me -rep doesn't bother me in the slightest, keep it up I don't care at all, if I was a troll wouldn't that be my badge of honour? ******* people off to the point where they neg rep me? Haha.

To sum it up - Football played by the most, attended by the most and watched by the most in the world. No argument for which is better.
 
RugbyIsAwful said:
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Rugbys argument on fans - Our fans aren't fanatic hardnuts therefore they are better because they aren't a nuisance.
Rugbys argument on players - Out players aren't pannsies therefore they are better because they take injuries better.
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Just one point with that, some football fans aren't "fanatic hardnuts", they're "racist, homophobic, ignorant, misogynistic, alcoholic woman beaters who when not at games on Saturday line up to go on the Jeremy Kyle Show"

Here's proof: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23767625 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-23573716 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-17515992 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23796712
 
Rugbyisawful, look at my avatar and tell me i dont know about how to support a team. I applaud what FCUM have done much like i supported in every sense what we did before you.

They are different sports so i'm not ever sure one CAN be "better" than the other, i support my rugby teams just as much as i do my football ones

Walk On muppet
 
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It makes me sad that fans of a sport cannot appreciate another sport. I love rugby, football, both GAA games, hockey, AFL and lacrosse. I am even trying to get into such sports as baseball and american football, both sports I hated in my youth because of how slow they were.

All these games take a particular set of skills and attributes that may not be prevalent in others so what is the point of saying who is the better athlete? Saying that though, I bet many pro rugby players can be pro football players and vise versa.

I have also attended many football games (Drogheda United and Toronto FC), rugby (Lienster, Canada, Ireland) as well as hockey (Detroit Red Wings, Toronto Marlies and Maple Leafs) and baseball (Toronto Jays). Implying that none of these sports would have passionate fans is ignorant. One game is not enough to judge an opinion on.
 
Jabby said:
Rugbyisawful, look at my avatar and tell me i dont know about how to support a team. I applaud what FCUM have done much like i supported in every sense what we did before you.

They are different sports so i'm not ever sure one CAN be "better" than the other, i support my rugby teams just as much as i do my football ones

Walk On muppet
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AFC Wimbledon, proper club, fan owned like it should be.

You can honestly say that when you go to a Wimbledon game it's just as passionate the rugby?



Moments like this don't happen in rugby. Passion.
 
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RugbyIsAwful said:
About to sign off for the night you'll be glad to know.

Invictus seems to be the only person capable of posting a decent response, I thought Rugby fans were clued up?

Giving me -rep doesn't bother me in the slightest, keep it up I don't care at all, if I was a troll wouldn't that be my badge of honour? ******* people off to the point where they neg rep me? Haha.

To sum it up - Football played by the most, attended by the most and watched by the most in the world. No argument for which is better.
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No it makes it more popular...would this mean that Nickleback are "better" than Mozart?
 
Little Guy said:
No it makes it more popular...would this mean that Nickleback are "better" than Mozart?
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Well yeah, clearly. People will always have less popular favourites like Rugby but ultinmatley if it was better it would have sold more.
 
RugbyIsAwful said:
AFC Wimbledon, proper club, fan owned like it should be.

You can honestly say that when you go to a Wimbledon game it's just as passionate the rugby?



Moments like this don't happen in rugby. Passion.
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some times yes and some times no

Football - 88 FA Cup final or the 2011 conference play off final (didn't actaully make the match but have see video) had amazing atmosphere.....loosing 2-1 to Croyden....not the best atmosphere

Rugby - the 98 NPC final with otago or even the 99 Super Rugby final we lost were both AMZAING games to be stationed on the terrace.....getting wasted by the chettahs this year (or most of the other games)...not so much

the world isn't balck and white dude
 
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RugbyIsAwful just sent me an excellent picture depicting the tactics of association football... I have provided it below for the benefit of everyone:

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