Would be interesting to seeActually - this raises an interesting point. When relative lack of familiarity in combinations seem to be an issue, what would an England side built on more established units look like?
For example, I think this is a pretty good side (yes I know some of these are injured).
1. Obano
2. George
3. Stuart
4. Itoje
5. Isiekwe
6. Chessum
7. Earl
8. Willis
9. Mitchell
10. F. Smith
11. Freeman
12. Ojomoh
13. Lawrence
14. Sleightholme
15. Furbank
Obviously George doesn't play for Bath but he'd be throwing to 3, possibly 4 familiar jumpers.
I went for Chessum as the most realistic option and the closest in playing style to Theo McFarland.
The rest are club units. Maybe some merit in this approach?
And was also banned
Butt?He has played but on the wing.
Would work well with M Smith, as Ojomoh and Lawrence play with Russell.True enough, but he's been first choice since then even when coming off an injury with no game time
I'm hoping his switch to 12, for England, means they are actually looking for a 12 as they now view Lawrence (rightfully) as a 13 - I still expect Slade to start all 6N games though, but hope Ojomoh is in the EPS and, hopefully, on the bench at least once or twice (and starts the A game, and if not then Atkinson plz))
Seems like England do better with one strong dominant club as the nucleus. Saracens, Leicester etc.
No prem club seem head and shoulders above the others and nobody is really setting the game on fire.
Not sure if it's the spead of players, the clubs not as good as they were, players not performing or a combination of all three.
When both were cheating the system.Seems like England do better with one strong dominant club as the nucleus. Saracens, Leicester etc.
No prem club seem head and shoulders above the others and nobody is really setting the game on fire.
Not sure if it's the spead of players, the clubs not as good as they were, players not performing or a combination of all three.
So all back three players or 10s and no actual centres? Umm …Tom Willis and Max Ojomoh in line for England call-ups for Six Nations opener against Ireland
Steve Borthwick names his England squad for the opening match of the 2025 Six Nations at 11.30am on Tuesday, January 14; England face Ireland at the Aviva Stadium in their opening game of the 2025 tournament on Saturday, February 1www.skysports.com
Meanwhile Sir Clive Woodward wants Pollock to start and that Herbie Farnsaorth should be poached from League. His full starting line up
'George Hendy, Ollie Sleightholme, Tommy Freeman, Fin Smith, Cadan Murley, Marcus Smith, Alex Mitchell; Asher Opoku-Foudjour, Theo Dan, Will Stuart, Maro Itoje (capt), Ollie Chessum, Henry Pollock, Ben Earl, Tom Willis'
Well to be fair, that's more or less what I was getting at yesterday on the club combination piece.When both were cheating the system.
This is my 23 with minimal use of just 3 clubs.
Obano George Stuart
Itoje Isiekwe
Underhill Earl
Willis
Mitchell Fin S
Dingwall Lawrence
Sleightholme Freeman
Furbank
Dan
Manny
Davison
Coles
Pearson
Spencer
Burke (makes me sick)
Daly
Would that actually be any better though than a current England team with the brilliance of curry's, Chessum, Martin, IFW, Marcus ?
Is it that players play at different clubs or that the coaching for England is just shite.
Telegraph say they are a few large significant surprises.
Dingwall is in the squad but doubt he will see any game time.Yet another England squad selected with no inside centres. Its like the position doesn't exist in England.