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England Six Nations Squad 2025

Actually - this raises an interesting point. When relative lack of familiarity in combinations seem to be an issue, what would an England side built on more established units look like?

For example, I think this is a pretty good side (yes I know some of these are injured).

1. Obano
2. George
3. Stuart
4. Itoje
5. Isiekwe
6. Chessum
7. Earl
8. Willis
9. Mitchell
10. F. Smith
11. Freeman
12. Ojomoh
13. Lawrence
14. Sleightholme
15. Furbank

Obviously George doesn't play for Bath but he'd be throwing to 3, possibly 4 familiar jumpers.

I went for Chessum as the most realistic option and the closest in playing style to Theo McFarland.

The rest are club units. Maybe some merit in this approach?
Would be interesting to see
 
And was also banned
He has played but on the wing.
Butt?
He missed the PRC during the AIs from a ban, and has played wing once this season - during his run of 6 starts when people were wondering if he'd be an option for England.
Post-AIs, he's had 1 start (Lawrence's EPS rest-day) and 1 bench spot
 
Seems like England do better with one strong dominant club as the nucleus. Saracens, Leicester etc.

No prem club seem head and shoulders above the others and nobody is really setting the game on fire.

Not sure if it's the spead of players, the clubs not as good as they were, players not performing or a combination of all three.
 
True enough, but he's been first choice since then even when coming off an injury with no game time

I'm hoping his switch to 12, for England, means they are actually looking for a 12 as they now view Lawrence (rightfully) as a 13 - I still expect Slade to start all 6N games though, but hope Ojomoh is in the EPS and, hopefully, on the bench at least once or twice (and starts the A game, and if not then Atkinson plz))
Would work well with M Smith, as Ojomoh and Lawrence play with Russell.
 
Seems like England do better with one strong dominant club as the nucleus. Saracens, Leicester etc.

No prem club seem head and shoulders above the others and nobody is really setting the game on fire.

Not sure if it's the spead of players, the clubs not as good as they were, players not performing or a combination of all three.

Just took our last proper match at random, the Boks. 7 different clubs represented in the starting XV, 8 in the 23, maximum representation of 4. Can't be bothered to do the numbers but with regions etc I'd guess most other countries have greater concentrations which must give some degree of advantage.
 
Well Italy has most of the squad at Benetton now, Ireland have been predominantly Leinster, what's the likes of Scotland, NZ etc. I imagine NZ was largely made up of The Crusaders for a time.
 
Seems like England do better with one strong dominant club as the nucleus. Saracens, Leicester etc.

No prem club seem head and shoulders above the others and nobody is really setting the game on fire.

Not sure if it's the spead of players, the clubs not as good as they were, players not performing or a combination of all three.
When both were cheating the system.

This is my 23 with minimal use of just 3 clubs.

Obano George Stuart
Itoje Isiekwe
Underhill Earl
Willis

Mitchell Fin S
Dingwall Lawrence
Sleightholme Freeman
Furbank

Dan
Manny
Davison
Coles
Pearson
Spencer
Burke (makes me sick)
Daly

Would that actually be any better though than a current England team with the brilliance of curry's, Chessum, Martin, IFW, Marcus ?

Is it that players play at different clubs or that the coaching for England is just shite.
 

Meanwhile Sir Clive Woodward wants Pollock to start and that Herbie Farnsworth should be poached from League. His full starting line up
'George Hendy, Ollie Sleightholme, Tommy Freeman, Fin Smith, Cadan Murley, Marcus Smith, Alex Mitchell; Asher Opoku-Foudjour, Theo Dan, Will Stuart, Maro Itoje (capt), Ollie Chessum, Henry Pollock, Ben Earl, Tom Willis'
 
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Meanwhile Sir Clive Woodward wants Pollock to start and that Herbie Farnsaorth should be poached from League. His full starting line up
'George Hendy, Ollie Sleightholme, Tommy Freeman, Fin Smith, Cadan Murley, Marcus Smith, Alex Mitchell; Asher Opoku-Foudjour, Theo Dan, Will Stuart, Maro Itoje (capt), Ollie Chessum, Henry Pollock, Ben Earl, Tom Willis'
So all back three players or 10s and no actual centres? Umm …
 
When both were cheating the system.

This is my 23 with minimal use of just 3 clubs.

Obano George Stuart
Itoje Isiekwe
Underhill Earl
Willis

Mitchell Fin S
Dingwall Lawrence
Sleightholme Freeman
Furbank

Dan
Manny
Davison
Coles
Pearson
Spencer
Burke (makes me sick)
Daly

Would that actually be any better though than a current England team with the brilliance of curry's, Chessum, Martin, IFW, Marcus ?

Is it that players play at different clubs or that the coaching for England is just shite.
Well to be fair, that's more or less what I was getting at yesterday on the club combination piece.

I only had 4 sides represented by including Chessum who I could have swapped out for Hill to make it just Bath, Saracens and Saints.

I can definitely see arguments for this kind of thinking. However, I'd still prefer to find room for Curry, Marcus and IFW.

The coaching does seem to be shite. However, some of the individual errors players make are baffling. We regularly see things like players going into contact with no support or players waiting for a pass when the 9 is at the bottom of the ruck. These are things coaches would roast you for at amateur level!
 

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