England 2024/25

[Ragey Erasmus]

Feyi Waboso has had a second shoulder operation....so he won't be on the summer tour if there was ever a chance.

Hope he is given time to properly recover and not rushed back. Too many young talents struggling to push on because of frequent injuries.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

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I think it's the RFU who will have to deal with it or move. The residents live there on the basis that the stadium is used X times per year. I can totally understand why they don't want that to be X+quite a few. Noise pollution is horrible and concerts tend to be quite loud, there's a shedload of disruption and there's always some antisocial behaviour. An ex colleague of mine lives there and his and neighbours' gardens regularly had people taking a p*ss in them etc.



Yep. At one point he was one of the best around and then his form fell off a cliff. If he comes back and is one of our best 3 THs then pick him, if he's not then don't.

Don't live near a stadium then.

It's like the people that live near airports and are shocked they can hear planes

 

[Which Tyler]

Why not use the Championship as a development vehicle for this???

For me - I want loans between Prem academies and the Champ, with a proper competition between the two.
In my ideal world, I'd clarify the PRC as a development competition (just "no first XV players" for the Prem teams - or "no-one from your European squad" 15/23 to be U25... something along those lines) and expand it.
I'm not sure I've got details worked out in my head; but with the Champ clubs not having the distractions of European rugby to worry about, there should be something workable.
I'm thinking of a calendar where the Champ clubs play against Prem clubs during the international windows (including training weekends?) - with the loan players playing for their Champ club. Whilst they play Prem v Prem and Champ v Champ between the AIs and 6N (probably loan players playing for Prem club).

This way gives the Champ clubs competitive matches against Prem clubs, and hopefully fewer walk-overs, whilst getting the academy players game time with both their teams; keeping a longer season for their development. Also gives the Champ clubs more matches (and gates) in a year, hopefully more attractive for TV companies, and more variety for fans.

I'd rather that than a full-on A-league that's yet another "up yours" to the Champ, and yet another ring in the fence.
Details obviously need to be worked out. It would also need some funding before TV deals are worked out and popularity assessed. Making it least likely though, is that it would need cooperation and a degree of selflessness from PRL, showing a desire to grow the pie rather than fight off all attempts to reduce their share of it.

 

[McTallshort]

Championship clubs do play Premiership clubs during the international windows in the Premiership cup.

 

[Not Mike Brown's Sock]

Championship clubs do play Premiership clubs during the international windows in the Premiership cup.

*Did

Dropping out of the comp next year

 

[McTallshort]

*Did

Dropping out of the comp next year

Oh? Ok that's a shame it was good watching cov beat Sarries and Tigers

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Hope he is given time to properly recover and not rushed back. Too many young talents struggling to push on because of frequent injuries.

Yeah, second surgery is a concern - I vaguely remember, when Sheridan retired, that they said there's basically a finite number of shoulder-dislocation-surgeries you can have as they tighten the bit's that hove gotten looser with the dislocation but you can't just keep doing that forever

 

[Which Tyler]

Championship clubs do play Premiership clubs during the international windows in the Premiership cup.

Really?
I'd never noticed.

Yeah, second surgery is a concern - I vaguely remember, when Sheridan retired, that they said there's basically a finite number of shoulder-dislocation-surgeries you can have as they tighten the bit's that hove gotten looser with the dislocation but you can't just keep doing that forever

Which is one of (not the only) reason why surgery isn't the treatment of choice for an uncomplicated dislocation

 

[LIONSxv]

Don't live near a stadium then.

It's like the people that live near airports and are shocked they can hear planes

But then don't complain that purchased a big house in a nice neighborhood for 200k less than going rate a few miles down the road
A have a similar issue with people who live adjacent to schools complaining about noise and traffic due to school drop offs

 

[BPM]

Yeah, second surgery is a concern - I vaguely remember, when Sheridan retired, that they said there's basically a finite number of shoulder-dislocation-surgeries you can have as they tighten the bit's that hove gotten looser with the dislocation but you can't just keep doing that forever

From reading Baxter's quote. He needed something 'tidying up' on his other shoulder so not a repeat op.

 

[Geordie]

From reading Baxter's quote. He needed something 'tidying up' on his other shoulder so not a repeat op.

Ah well thats good its not the same one being reopened. But is it a concern hes got issues with both shoulders at his age?

 

[Vieux Talonneur]

Don't live near a stadium then.

It's like the people that live near airports and are shocked they can hear planes

Hmmm. If you buy near Exeter Airport you do so in the knowledge that it has 30 or 40 flights a day, but you'd be less than thrilled to suddenly find out they want to expand to become the next Heathrow with 1,200. The RFU want to move the goal posts for their own benefit and there'd rightly be significant local opposition.

And on the subject of Exeter, why is Baxter untouchable? One way or another, the slide from their peak has been on his watch.

 

[Which Tyler]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the proposal is to increase from 15 a year to 600...

More like buying near Exeter Airport, and finding that improvements in air traffic control mean an increase for 30 to 40 flights a day.