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Despite that and Carey did othing wrong usually you withdraw the appeal for that kind of dismissal when it's clear its a brain fade and not an attempt to steal a single or going down the crease to play the ball.
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Stokes going bananas…..
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correct me if I'm wrong, but as he made no attempt to play a shot he can't steal a run anyway?
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Exciting stuff. Just a pity the tail is so long.
Might be a gap in my knowledge sonI don't know. Doesn't matter anyway the point is he wasn't trying to claim an advantage just a brain fade.
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If he can't get an advantage, the laws look like it should have been called dead as soon as the keeper took it.
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I knew Stokes would get out. He had too many shots that were reckless, even though they went for boundaries, and he constantly seemed frustrated when hitting to a fielder. He was too impatient. McCullum is rubbing off on him in a very bad way.
Before Stokes got out, they could've won the game with 1's and 2's. And the odd boundary. The shot Stokes got out with shows his impatience.
Before Stokes got out, they could've won the game with 1's and 2's. And the odd boundary. The shot Stokes got out with shows his impatience.
He scored 155! Nonsense comment of the highest order. Sure he'll score 200 off with 1s and 2s players don it all the time....
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Did you even read what I said ? He basically threw the game away even though he scored 155. It's irresponsible batting.
Yeah let's blame the guy who through his gustsy batting managed to put us in a position with a long tail where we might of queeked over the line. Do you actually watch test cricket, do you actually know how hard it is to chase down 70+ runs? With the tail.
7 of out batters failed to score 20! There's blame here but isn't the guy with twice as many runs as anyone else.
Also with the new ball due in 8 overs...and runs had dried up. Like its disappointing to lose (and we haven't yet but incredibly unlikely) but its not like just sticking around was a hugely game winning plan.
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A good effort from Stokes, but the game was lost much earlier with some reckless batting. And don't forget that the Aussies were without Lyon who should have been their main weapon in that 4th innings.
I'm not too bothered by the spirit of cricket stuff. Mankad's a bit different, but no-one's suggested that Bairstow was anything other than out according to the laws and did we ever expect the Aussies to do anything other than play hard? The look on his face reminded me of Hartley and Haskell against Italy.
Well done Australia, but don't say we haven't been charitable hosts.
I'm not too bothered by the spirit of cricket stuff. Mankad's a bit different, but no-one's suggested that Bairstow was anything other than out according to the laws and did we ever expect the Aussies to do anything other than play hard? The look on his face reminded me of Hartley and Haskell against Italy.
Well done Australia, but don't say we haven't been charitable hosts.
Short ball has been awkard for both sides on this Lords pitch. I think we go back to day 1 and one wicket taken. Probably let Australia score 100 runs too many. Not to say we haven't lost it due to other areas since but it feels like that the crucial part and we've been playing catch up ever since.
Hope we get a result in the next three games with similar score for the winners. I'm way more interested in competitive Cricket for England than where we were 18 months ago.
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That run out reminds me of a cricket game I played in the army. On the basis that I could bowl a ball in the general area of the wicket I ended up spammed for the Sqn cricket team. We played the HQ Sqn which was full of all the regimental big wigs. Our wicker keeper was a grizzly Staff Sergeant who had actually played for Essex as kid before joining up. He stumped out most of the HQ batting line up who kept wandering outside the creese after the ball had been bowled. It took the loss of their entire top order before they actually stopped doing it. The CO lost his cool a bit and protested about "Unsporting conduct" but in the laws of the game there was nothing wrong with the dismissals much to anger of the mainly public school/officer heavy HQ side a much to the amusement of our mainly enlisted Sqn side. I'm just shocked it doesn't happen more often.
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In that situation "unsporting conduct" meant "letting the officers win"
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"Unsportsmanlike conduct" and "clever play" are usually just the difference between who's doing the writing.
The Spirit of the Game law and the fact you can actually withdraw an appeal always makes things like this more nebulous. At least it wasn't a mankad.
In this kind of situation how often does dead ball actually get called in a cricket match? Nobody is entirely sure if umpires called over or not.
In this kind of situation how often does dead ball actually get called in a cricket match? Nobody is entirely sure if umpires called over or not.
Thing is the umpire was already starting to give the bowler his things so in his mind it was over, but technically it hadn't been called. For me, like a mankad, if this becomes a thing then it's just going to waste time. It's a trick that should only work once in a while and it's a cheap trick because 99% of the time players aren't going to waste time on that kind of nonsense. Even the majority of his team were acting like the over was finished, but were happy to take advantage of one player being sneaky.
