Boxing Thread

[McTallshort]

Thought the fight had been cancelled?

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Tyson Batman Fury

 

[james5000]

Thought the fight had been cancelled?

Postponed to 28/11

 

[McTallshort]

Well game over for fury then. Looking forward to White v Joshua more.

 

[valley commando]

I'm looking forward to Pacquiao beating Khan.

 

[nickdnz]

He's not charming like Ali, but he's not a bad talker. He's actually quite hilarious IMO anyway. I like his fighting style as well, good combination puncher and doesn't just hug the **** out of people.

Hope he beats Wlad just because Wlad is one of the most boring champs ever and he stinks up the joint most nights (In terms of entertainment value at least, jab and grab isn't entertaining at all). Wlad vs Jennings was terrible to watch and when Wlad started to get deducted points he looked a bit lost. vs Povetkin it was the most unbelievable hugfest you will ever see, Povetkin didn't have a chance because of a despicable ref that didn't even warn Wlad.

If this fight goes past 7-8 rounds I really believe Fury has a huge opportunity. Wlad has poor stamina and Fury has a huge gas tank and he always gets stronger as the fight goes on. Wlad might just come out and make a statement and blast him early, he still is a massive puncher and Fury can be sloppy. Its probably the most logical scenario tbf, I doubt jab and grab will work on someone as big as Fury anyway.

Disagree on most points.

Tyson Fury has no charisma in my view. His talking is just a really cheap imitation. I think he's about as funny as the dumbest kid in any given third form class room. Deontay Wilder is the same. Their smack talking and personas are pretty tiresome.

Tyson Fury as a boxer is average. For a huge guy he has no power, slow hands, and a very questionable chin. He just plods around the ring tapping fighters.

I'm fine with Wlad's style. At least what he does, he does extremely well. Fury does nothing well, and is still a boring fighter. At least Wilder is interesting to watch. I'd pay to see Wilder, Joshua, Takam, Povetkin, Parker over Fury. The only appeal for me is Fury's record getting a loss and him stfu.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Was is boring boxer who won't fight outside Germany now.

 

[nickdnz]

Was is boring boxer who won't fight outside Germany now.

Except in hs last fight in New York .

The reality is, he sells out 80,000 seat stadiums in Germany. Why would he fight elsewhere?

Tyson only had 2 ***le fights outside of the USA (1 of which he lost), Holyfield only defended one ***le outside of the USA (as a Cruiserweight), Joe Frasier only defended his ***le once outside of the USA (and lost).

In Klitschko's last 8 fights he has fought in four different countries. Not bad for someone who only fights in Germany.

 

[psychic duck]

Except in hs last fight in New York .

The reality is, he sells out 80,000 seat stadiums in Germany. Why would he fight elsewhere?

Tyson only had 2 ***le fights outside of the USA (1 of which he lost), Holyfield only defended one ***le outside of the USA (as a Cruiserweight), Joe Frasier only defended his ***le once outside of the USA (and lost).

In Klitschko's last 8 fights he has fought in four different countries. Not bad for someone who only fights in Germany.

Much of the Klitschko hating is ignorant. Not his fault he has been so utterly dominant in the division for the last decade and never had a great rival to work with, or doesn't do the kind of Mayweather/Broner style antics to gain attention.

 

[james5000]

Disagree on most points.

Tyson Fury has no charisma in my view. His talking is just a really cheap imitation. I think he's about as funny as the dumbest kid in any given third form class room. Deontay Wilder is the same. Their smack talking and personas are pretty tiresome.

Tyson Fury as a boxer is average. For a huge guy he has no power, slow hands, and a very questionable chin. He just plods around the ring tapping fighters.

I'm fine with Wlad's style. At least what he does, he does extremely well. Fury does nothing well, and is still a boring fighter. At least Wilder is interesting to watch. I'd pay to see Wilder, Joshua, Takam, Povetkin, Parker over Fury. The only appeal for me is Fury's record getting a loss and him stfu.

Fury has got elite co-ordination for his size, hand speed is very good. He's a beautiful combination puncher, and he likes to go to war, that's entertainment not hugathons. He doesn't appear to have the greatest whiskers but neither does Wlad.

Fury's smack talking is pretty childish, but he's not dumb by any means. He really did seem to get under Wlads skin in the press conference and that's never really happened before the guy is ice cool.

 

[nickdnz]

Fury has got elite co-ordination for his size, hand speed is very good. He's a beautiful combination puncher, and he likes to go to war, that's entertainment not hugathons. He doesn't appear to have the greatest whiskers but neither does Wlad.

Fury's smack talking is pretty childish, but he's not dumb by any means. He really did seem to get under Wlads skin in the press conference and that's never really happened before the guy is ice cool.

I don't think he has amazing coordination or hand speed. He just doesn't sit down on any of his punches.

Fortunately, Wladimir doesn't get hit in the face, so it doesn't matter how his chin is, not that Fury hits hard enough to really test it if he lands flush.

He goes to war; in the sense he has bad defense - even against average opponents - doesn't impress me. Not getting hit in the face and controlling distance well does.

I don't think he did much to whind Wlad up. He's heard it all before. At least David Haye could argue intellegently when interviewed outside of promotions. Fury just goes into a weird diotribe about 'young lions, I'm new Muhammad Ali aren't I pretty, you fight bumbs - while my two fights against Chisora apprently make me a half-decent contender". It's just tedious. There isn't half a fibre of witt involved in it at all.

 

[james5000]

I don't think he has amazing coordination or hand speed. He just doesn't sit down on any of his punches.

Fortunately, Wladimir doesn't get hit in the face, so it doesn't matter how his chin is, not that Fury hits hard enough to really test it if he lands flush.

He goes to war; in the sense he has bad defense - even against average opponents - doesn't impress me. Not getting hit in the face and controlling distance well does.

I don't think he did much to whind Wlad up. He's heard it all before. At least David Haye could argue intellegently when interviewed outside of promotions. Fury just goes into a weird diotribe about 'young lions, I'm new Muhammad Ali aren't I pretty, you fight bumbs - while my two fights against Chisora apprently make me a half-decent contender". It's just tedious. There isn't half a fibre of witt involved in it at all.

I didn't say he had amazing speed or coordination I said it was very good for his size. He's 6ft9 and a big build, he will have a decent size advantage on Wlad something that rarely happens to him.

Fury is 24-0 with 18ko's, that's not the record of a feather fisted fighter, Fury hits much harder then Bryant Jennings that's for sure. He's ko'd Cunningham, Chisora and Hammer recently they are all durable fighters.

On a purely entertainment value level, I rate Fury right up there. (Parker, Joshua and Wilder also happen to be exciting fighters as well). Fury has a high work rate, likes to fight inside and outside. He mixes it up really well, and like he said at the press conference he's an "adaptor". He doesn't just have a plan A, he can change his fighting style mid fight and become even more effective. Not many if any 6ft9 guys can move like him and switch hit like him. When he wants to fight defensively he has no problems, his guard is good and he has a good clinch on him, just watch Chisora 2. Even after he's been tagged hard like the Cunningham fight, he got up shook it off and changed his game plan. He dominated that fight pretty quickly and the punch was a peach, the likes of Parker and Joshua haven't really had adversity yet because they haven't been tested. Parker gets hit far more often then Fury but he hasn't fought at that level yet.

Fury is also surprisingly young, he's been around for ages and he's still only 27. If he didn't have fighters pulling out on him all the time like Haye, Chisora and even Wlad he'd have even more experience and maybe an even better record.

Haye is basically just the same as Fury in the mouth stakes. I haven't heard anything intelligent coming from him, but what they both do well is putting bums on seats. Putting bums on seats and selling PPV's is what pro boxing is all about and that's why they are so successful. They could both try and act like gentleman but they probably wouldn't get paid as well.

I like Wlad but his popularity isn't based on how entertaining his fights are but how successful he has been. He's one of the most dominant champs of all time, 90% of his recent fights are pitifully one-sided. He has basically perfected his fighting style and when you add in some extremely relaxed refereeing he has been nearly unbeatable. The only things that makes me think Fury has a chance is Wlads age, not many champs are still winning at 39. I saw that Jennings fight and Wlad was really struggling with Jennings inside game, and Furys is much better. Jennings also has a massive reach which meant that Wlad couldn't just 1-2 him all night, He had to get in to range to get off. Fury has an even bigger reach and he can switch hit, plus he's actually really diverse and can throw all the punches in the book. I do think Jennings is probably more durable, and has a bit more speed but I'd take Fury to beat him any day of the week. Fury was born to fight he just loves it he was probably boxing before he could walk (he's even named after Mike Tyson), Jennings came to the sport a bit later and gets by on athleticism. He does have some really good fundamentals but he's nowhere near as seasoned as Fury.

IMO Wlad probably KO's the "Gypsy warrior" early, but he's still a live dog. His punch output and adaptability will wear down Wlad (if he can survive) and I could see him overwhelming Wlad in the later rounds.

 

[james5000]

The sauna story is pretty funny. Fury is a character and is actually fairly calculating and not just a mouth. He's much more respectful than your Ronda Rousey's.

 

[nickdnz]

The sauna story is pretty funny. Fury is a character and is actually fairly calculating and not just a mouth. He's much more respectful than your Ronda Rousey's.

Is this the same Fury who just said legalizing homosexuality and abortions - was the same as pedophilia - in an offensive and purile rant?

 

[psychic duck]

Is this the same Fury who just said legalizing homosexuality and abortions - was the same as pedophilia - in an offensive and purile rant?

Yep. Fury is a foolish oafish cúnt who I have never been that impressed by in or out the ring. He's very lucky to have got this far really as Haye would have sparked him out.

 

[McTallshort]

Is this the same Fury who just said legalizing homosexuality and abortions - was the same as pedophilia - in an offensive and purile rant?

Yes he is a deluded ****. I think he will get his lights punched out then in a few years make a comeback and get battered again. Blow all his money on a large caravan and by the time he hits 40 will be tarmacing drives again bragging to all the other do-as-you-like-ees what a great boxer he used to be......but I could be wrong

 

[james5000]

Is this the same Fury who just said legalizing homosexuality and abortions - was the same as pedophilia - in an offensive and purile rant?

Never heard him say that but i'm sure a few people on this planet are actually offended by legalizing homosexuality and abortions, how many religious people are their out their? He likes to use hyperbole but I bet even he doesn't think they are one and the same. I'm guessing he probably just went over the top in his rage against them.

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Yep. Fury is a foolish oafish cúnt who I have never been that impressed by in or out the ring. He's very lucky to have got this far really as Haye would have sparked him out.

I think many would be surprised by the outcome of that fight, and when Fury would have won he would have got no respect. People would just say he won because of size (which in some ways is true), but being big has disadvantages as well. Fury uses his tools very well, if he was smaller he would have to fight differently.

 

[psychic duck]

Never heard him say that but i'm sure a few people on this planet are actually offended by legalizing homosexuality and abortions, how many religious people are their out their? He likes to use hyperbole but I bet even he doesn't think they are one and the same. I'm guessing he probably just went over the top in his rage against them.

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I think many would be surprised by the outcome of that fight, and when Fury would have won he would have got no respect. People would just say he won because of size (which in some ways is true), but being big has disadvantages as well. Fury uses his tools very well, if he was smaller he would have to fight differently.

Nah, he's a foolish thick cúnt outside the ring, and not top level in it. You overrate him massively.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Please stop deliberately circumventing the swear filter.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Please stop deliberately circumventing the swear filter.

Yep be like most people and say Kent.