Aviva Premiership Round 18

[ratsapprentice]

Yes they both are, I think they thought the strettle one was in the tackle.

Nah - was after the ball was passed, otherwise it would just be a strip, which isn't illegal.

Sinkler did one on Billy and now Burger on him.

You sure? From what I remember he held onto Billy until he fell over?

Didn't see a replay of it.

 

[TheSaffycen]

I'm only guessing because of Vunipolas reaction

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Burns played brilliantly kick 7 out of 7 with some difficult kicks.

His all round play has improved so much, kicks out of hand defence.

Schooled Slade in general play Slade made some nice runs though.

 

[Irishkid]

Quins are useless there only decent player is Clifford

 

[TheSaffycen]

What a kick by Strettle there.

 

[91jmay]

Quins very poor. Maro Itoje got on and showed his promise. Great athleticism. Jack Clifford looks very good as well. Billy V continued his form from 6Ns and was MOTM for me.

 

[ratsapprentice]

Pretty good summation....

Not a terrible game by any stretch, but a bit flat.

 

[Irishkid]

Another win we could catch Quins

 

[smartcooky]

If the TMO didn't correct him then maybe.....the TMO agreed with him?
Referee asked him two or three times whether he agreed with the red card, and each time he said yes.

Let me first say that I have no dog in this fight.

I don't agree that the TMO concurs with the referee's decision to give a red card. Check out the look on Keith's face when the referee says red card.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1075035555843623

Keith then suggests he look at it in real time. IMO, he was doing his best (within the stupid limitations imposed TMOs by WR) to tell the referee that he was going down the wrong track.

I really have no idea why WR feels it has to hamstring the communications between referee and TMO by making everything in codes. Just let the TMO speak in plain language...."Craig, I think it was accidental, I don't think White 8 was trying to kick the ball"

IMO, there is no way this was ever a red card. I don't see any indication that White 8 was attempting to kick the ball at all, with either foot. All I see is a running player slowing down and not stopping in time. (the ground level goal-line view from behind White 8 shows this best). A 100kg plus player cannot stop in one stride; its physically impossible

I have read some people suggesting he should have jumped over North, but he simply wasn't in position to do that, and if he tried, he could have ended up sprigging north in the face.

If you think this really was a red card, then you have to agree that this was one as well....



If we use the same flawed logic applied by the referee to the Hughes decision, then Jones should have seen Leonard's head was close to the ball, and should not have tried to kick it.

 

[ratsapprentice]

If we use the same flawed logic applied by the referee to the Hughes decision, then Jones should have seen Leonard's head was close to the ball, and should not have tried to kick it.

I disagree - it's fine to try and kick a ball that isn't already in the possession of another player, but not out of someone's grasp.

If he felt that Hughes was trying to make contact with the ball then it's completely different to the above scenario where Leonard doesn't yet have the ball.

 

[smartcooky]

I disagree - it's fine to try and kick a ball that isn't already in the possession of another player, but not out of someone's grasp.

If he felt that Hughes was trying to make contact with the ball then it's completely different to the above scenario where Leonard doesn't yet have the ball.

No, that has all changed now. Referee's boss Joel Jutge has opened up a can of worms with his blitz on players being challenged in the air. He has effectively decreed that players must be aware of what other players players are doing or or are about to do (the Finn Russell red card was upheld because he should have expected Dan Biggar to jump and acted accordingly, he didn't get out of Biggars way, and the rest is history)

I this case, Hughes was not attempting to kick the ball. Even Blind Freddy could see that!

 

[TRF_Olyy]

#bants

 

[goodNumber10]

#awfulbants...

all the reasons twotter is excllent and awful in one conversation..

 

[Raggs]

Really don't think that's a red. Hughes is well within his rights to chase North at full pelt, he can't predict that Loz will take him down, or that North will slide and roll into the path Hughes is on. He's clearly trying to slow up once he sees North goes over, but a guy his size isn't going to have a short breaking distance. Jumping would have given him even less control.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Welsh first win coming up I can feel it.

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Cipriani top tackler in the Sale vs Gloucester game,
17/17 tackles made.

 

[j'nuh]

I swear I bring a curse on any sports team I follow.

 

[LeinsterMan (NotTigsMan)]

Cipriani top tackler in the Sale vs Gloucester game,
17/17 tackles made.

Playing out of position as well.

 

[ncurd]

Welsh first win coming up I can feel it.

How did that work out in the end?

 

[TRF_Olyy]

Bit of an embarrassing scoreline for Bath, though.