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There'll be more than half a million EU citizens in NI post Brexit. The backstop is to protect them and to prevent the UK from breaking another International treaty they have with an EU state. Not everything is about the UK you know, especially when you're dealing with a union that's far more powerful and better run!


Continuing the UK's good work so... Don't act as if Brexit it to save the starving children, no one who has ever been on the same landmass as a history book will ever buy that.
Yet again you disingenuously ignore the FACT that what I said was 100% right
 
the eu are insistent on the hard border
We want the ducking hard border you cretin! Its us insisting that we must be able to tariff goods and stop the free movement of people! You can't manage that with a soft/no border.

The Unionist don't want that hard border down the Irish Sea (for obviously reasons I shouldn't need to spell out).

The EU have got ******** all to do with it.
 
We want the ducking hard border you cretin! Its us insisting that we must be able to tariff goods and stop the free movement of people! You can't manage that with a soft/no border.

The Unionist don't want that hard border down the Irish Sea (for obviously reasons I shouldn't need to spell out).

The EU have got ******** all to do with it.

lol listen up cretin who is we? there is no need for a hard border and no one wants it BUT the EU
 
Yes 170,000 abortions a year isnt worth interrupting your left leaning chit chat ....youre not just guilty of idiocy but cold hearted biased idiocy too
I get the feeling your pro-choice in name only...
 
lol listen up cretin who is we? there is no need for a hard border and no one wants it BUT the EU
Please explain in detail how you enforce tariff's and free movement of people without a hard border.
 
cheers bully boy lol .....your abuse says all about what a coward you are
as for northern ireland theyre part of the UK you dumb Fck
My starred out word started with a C actually, and right now you are blatantly insulting and dismissing my entire heritage by ignoring NI's deep Irish republican roots and blaming my country for the incompetence of your own so I'll call you what I want.

What you're saying is that the onus is on the EU to protect an international treaty of which they're not a party too and that the UK who instigated the whole thing needn't do a thing? Thick as pig ****. You should be thanking the EU on this, breaking international law won't help the UK make any friends post Brexit.
 
My starred out word started with a C actually, and right now you are blatantly insulting and dismissing my entire heritage by ignoring NI's deep Irish republican roots and blaming my country for the incompetence of your own so I'll call you what I want.

What you're saying is that the onus is on the EU to protect an international treaty of which they're not a party too and that the UK who instigated the whole thing needn't do a thing? Thick as pig ****. You should be thanking the EU on this, breaking international law won't help the UK make any friends post Brexit.
mercy me youre such a boring C**t a real thug who bullies his way through life...I know nothing of you or your heritage nor do you know mine but you chose to be an abusive boring bully, thats all I know about you...as for your country where is that? NI or republic? There is no reason why the EU cannot put a set date on a backstop of the UK being in the customs union. Of course they can word it as tightly as possible to ensure there is no hard border and all thats is there is the simplest form of computerised system that checks goods passing through...no soldiers needed. but the eu need to allow the UK to leave the customs union
 
you explain why we need a hard border cretin
I just explained why FFS! Thats literally why you need one to enforce tariffs and stop free movement of people. You need to actually explain how you accomplish that without one.

On abortion figures don't matter if your pro-choice you accept women have the right to make a decision about their bodies and that's pretty much the end it the amount that occur after that.

The fact that some people feel pressurised in a situation where their hormonal balance is off and their decision is quite litreally time limited if they are considering that option. Yeah thats not a shocker. People come to regret monumental decision in their lives? Also huge shocker. They wat to blame that regret on someone other than themselves...basic psychology.

Doctors are required to give impartial advice so that a person can make informed decision. Unless you have any evidence of actual impropriety this discussion is moot.
 
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I just explained why FFS! Thats literally why you need one to enforce tariffs and stop free movement of people. You need to actually explain how you accomplish that without one.

On abortion figures don't matter if your pro-choice you accept women have the right to make a decision about their bodies and that's pretty much the end it the amount that occur after that.

The fact that some people feel pressurised in a situation where their hormonal balance is off and their decision is quite litreally time limited if they are considering that option. Yeah thats not a shocker. People come to regret monumental decision in their lives? Also huge shocker. They wat to blame that regret on someone other than themselves...basic psychology.

Doctors are required to give impartial advice so that a person can make informed decision. Unless you have any evidence of actual impropriety this discussion is moot.

Abortion figures do matter, how callous? personally am pro choice but far more should be invested in allowing these potential parents to have as much time knowledge help information as possible to make an unhurried informed decision they will not regret for the rest of their lives. Many parents to be regret an abortion and in many cases are unable to have children in future. These people are often in difficult circumstances , financially and emotionally. But how many of them are fully aware they can have the child and give the child up for adoption or fostering etc?
Its not just hormonal balance, its their circumstances, they may be immature, on drugs, on booze, in an abusive relationship or a broken home..The list of variables is endless. But give them as much information and time and support as possible to make an unrushed informed decision

That at least allows the unborn child a chance to live and that in turn gives these parents to be some peace of mind. Many many women have said they felt pressurised and rushed into abortions they later regret. Sadly this aspect is never discussed as the whole topic has long been hijacked by the hardline PC brigade and hard line feminists who feel men have no right to even discuss the topic. Well have the children being aborted are male and half the parents to be are male, so yes males should have a right to an opinion too.

As for the hard border its the EU insistent on hving one. Theyre insisting on having an indefinite one forever. Thats Not on the UK its on the EU, as theyre putting the hard border and theyre putting it there forever. This is purely being done in such a totally heavy handed inflexible way by the eu to ensure brexit is destroyed and to keep UK in a never ending backstop
This is the one single reaosn brexit has stopped. Those blaming the Uk for this are lying, they are simply remainers using this backstop as an excuse to block brexit. The EU can easily make it a soft border simple computer checks on goods and no soldiers. and a definite date to bring the hard border to an end in order to make it as soft as possible with just checks on goods.
 
Its probably just hard to understand when you yourself come from a place that only has statelet status because it's so bad that your overlords don't want it to be part of their England no matter how much you all bend over to them.
oh right all english are evil too lol You hate them and you shout and swear at anyone with any different opinions lol is that what you call your social and political acumen lol
 
mercy me youre such a boring C**t a real thug who bullies his way through life...I know nothing of you or your heritage nor do you know mine but you chose to be an abusive boring bully, thats all I know about you...as for your country where is that? NI or republic? There is no reason why the EU cannot put a set date on a backstop of the UK being in the customs union. Of course they can word it as tightly as possible to ensure there is no hard border and all thats is there is the simplest form of computerised system that checks goods passing through...no soldiers needed. but the eu need to allow the UK to leave the customs union
Yes exactly you know nothing of Ireland or Northern Ireland so keep your mouth shut on the subject and stop stealing oxygen. This is the exact reason no one would trust you and your torie ilk to do right by Northern Ireland without a binding agreement. Because they neither understand nor give a ****.
Horrible mix of ignorance, playing the victim and lack of accountability
 
Abortion figures do matter, how callous? personally am pro choice but far more should be invested in allowing these potential parents to have as much time knowledge help information as possible to make an unhurried informed decision they will not regret for the rest of their lives. Many parents to be regret an abortion and in many cases are unable to have children in future. These people are often in difficult circumstances , financially and emotionally. But how many of them are fully aware they can have the child and give the child up for adoption or fostering etc?
Its not just hormonal balance, its their circumstances, they may be immature, on drugs, on booze, in an abusive relationship or a broken home..The list of variables is endless. But give them as much information and time and support as possible to make an unrushed informed decision

That at least allows the unborn child a chance to live and that in turn gives these parents to be some peace of mind. Many many women have said they felt pressurised and rushed into abortions they later regret. Sadly this aspect is never discussed as the whole topic has long been hijacked by the hardline PC brigade and hard line feminists who feel men have no right to even discuss the topic. Well have the children being aborted are male and half the parents to be are male, so yes males should have a right to an opinion too.
Doctors are required to do exactly that! Show actual evidence me they aren't and we'll discuss it.

Yeah mens rights on abortion we have none its not our body. We are allowed to have an opinion but its not our decision. End of.
As for the hard border its the EU insistent on hving one. Theyre insisting on having an indefinite one forever. Thats Not on the UK its on the EU, as theyre putting the hard border and theyre putting it there forever. This is purely being done in such a totally heavy handed inflexible way by the eu to ensure brexit is destroyed and to keep UK in a never ending backstop
This is the one single reaosn brexit has stopped. Those blaming the Uk for this are lying, they are simply remainers using this backstop as an excuse to block brexit. The EU can easily make it a soft border simple computer checks on goods and no soldiers. and a definite date to bring the hard border to an end in order to make it as soft as possible with just checks on goods.
How do the computer checks to ensure proper tariffs are applied work?

How do you stop free moment of people?

Come one these were two main promises of the leave campaign. Stop telling remainers what we consider can't be done without x solution (this case a hard border) can be done by magic and unicorns and actually give detail on how you accomplish what you want done. But as usual not Brexiter has an actual real plan...
 
How do you stop free moment of people?

Come one these were two main promises of the leave campaign. Stop telling remainers what we consider can't be done without x solution (this case a hard border) can be done by magic and unicorns and actually give detail on how you accomplish what you want done. But as usual not Brexiter has an actual real plan...

Ah sure, you know yourself, all those good faith, unmanned international borders around the world, just ask people not to smuggle or illegally enter a country and you're sound! I think the US and Mexico have one now, yerman Donald set it up!
 
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