[2025 Six Nations] Italy vs Wales - 08/02/25

[dirty harry]

Should Wales now have to face Georgia in a playoff? I say in jest after years of people moaning about Italy.

As a welshman I would be very wary of that...

But it would be deserved

 

[Bluemoon]

Andrew Coombs and Ken Owens the same on S4C, especially Coombs.

He's always been fiery to be fair! It's going to take anger and then positive energy to fix this, at mostly all levels of the game. We've got the resources to do something about it but it won't happen on its own.

I think he sometimes talks nonsense though, such as calling that performance the worst Wales have played in 18 months.

I think last week was worse, for an obvious example.

Im not saying he's a great commentator - I just see a difference in attitude today and that's good. I think today was worse to be honest, its not just about points.

 

[Astrodragon]

ffs its Wales! If we arent used to playing in the rain, who is?

 

[Which Tyler]

ffs its Wales! If we arent used to playing in the rain, who is?

Are you trying to start an argument about the roof?

 

[Flankers' paradise]

Suprised Brex didn't tell Garbisi to take the kick and deny Wales a LBP. Wales in desperate need of tightheads, locks, tens and centres

 

[Rinkadink]

I think today was worse to be honest, its not just about points.

Each to their own, don't think it's worth getting into because none of it was particularly good.

Should Wales now have to face Georgia in a playoff?

No, England will have to.

 

[spursindevon]

Each to their own, don't think it's worth getting into because none of it was particularly good.

No, England will have to.

Why not, Georgia would give England a good game

 

[Reiser99]

Well done Italy. Definitely the better side. Need to sort out the maul defence though.

I don't see a Wales until the summer now. Who do they play then?

 

[dirty harry]

Well done Italy. Definitely the better side. Need to sort out the maul defence though.

I don't see a Wales until the summer now. Who do they play then?

Japan...

And let's be honest, Japan are more than capable of beating us if we continue to play poor level rugby, without a kicking game, and overplaying in our own half

 

[Tooting Carmen]

Nothing short of mass resignations in the WRU is in order.

 

[dirty harry]

Nothing short of mass resignations in the WRU is in order.

Starting with Tierney

 

[Wasps92]

Sleightholme bottled that.

 

[Which Tyler]

Sleightholme bottled that.

Wrong thread?

 

[Saintjay]

Nothing short of mass resignations in the WRU is in order.

You can still win the triple crown.

 

[dullonien]

Suprised Brex didn't tell Garbisi to take the kick and deny Wales a LBP. Wales in desperate need of tightheads, locks, tens and centres

Apart from tighthead, where the cupboard is genuinely bare, ww do have options in those other positions.

Not sure why Teddy Williams didn't start over Rowlands, he made a big difference after coming on. Fender looks like a future international at the Ospreys. Greene is a great prospect coming through.

Not lots of options at 10, but obviousy Dan Edwards would have been a better option to start. Jarrod Evans should be in the squad too.

We have more options at centre than I can remember in a long time. James will get better. Joe Roberts started to settle last season before a bad injury. Llewellyn should be playing now. Grady could still make it as a centre, although unlikely given his rugby intelligence and passing is below par. Ben Thomas is a better centre than 10, but his confidence is likely shot now for this season, needs to go regather himself at Cardiff. Then there's a couple of youngsters in Macs Page, Hennessey and Ackerman who look like top prospects. Edit. there's also Hawkins who looks like he's be available again soon, though another who needs to regroup after his horror move to Exeter! Edit edit, there's also Johnny Williams who would do a job now with his physicality.

 

[OllyM97]

Italy are so much worse than they need to be through lack of confidence. I don't think they've got that "Wooden Spoon" mentality out of their heads yet - I guess though, after years of owning it, that mentality change isn't going to happen overnight. First half I thought they were good and did a professional job. Second half they went back to being Italy of old. I would just like to see more from the Italian attack in the next 3 games. Menoncello is a great player but he's not been given the chances so far - his defence was very good today though. I think they need to go back to Capuozzo at full-back for the rest of the tournament. On the wing he just doesn't get enough of the ball.

 

[TW27BA]

Not a good time to be a Wales supporter. Today, like last week they were bereft of any ideas.
The scoreline was closer than the performance suggested. Italy to a man were superior.
Wooden spoon beckons.

 

[Flankers' paradise]

Italy are so much worse than they need to be through lack of confidence. I don't think they've got that "Wooden Spoon" mentality out of their heads yet - I guess though, after years of owning it, that mentality change isn't going to happen overnight. First half I thought they were good and did a professional job. Second half they went back to being Italy of old. I would just like to see more from the Italian attack in the next 3 games. Menoncello is a great player but he's not been given the chances so far - his defence was very good today though. I think they need to go back to Capuozzo at full-back for the rest of the tournament. On the wing he just doesn't get enough of the ball.

Normally I would agree r.e Capuozzo although I don't think you could drop Allan on form, inevitably the player coming onto the wing would be a lower standard

 

[Lé Ddanno]

Normally I would agree r.e Capuozzo although I don't think you could drop Allan on form, inevitably the player coming onto the wing would be a lower standard

Allan is the main kicker as well

 

[IT157]

Apart from tighthead, where the cupboard is genuinely bare, ww do have options in those other positions.

Not sure why Teddy Williams didn't start over Rowlands, he made a big difference after coming on. Fender looks like a future international at the Ospreys. Greene is a great prospect coming through.

Not lots of options at 10, but obviousy Dan Edwards would have been a better option to start. Jarrod Evans should be in the squad too.

We have more options at centre than I can remember in a long time. James will get better. Joe Roberts started to settle last season before a bad injury. Llewellyn should be playing now. Grady could still make it as a centre, although unlikely given his rugby intelligence and passing is below par. Ben Thomas is a better centre than 10, but his confidence is likely shot now for this season, needs to go regather himself at Cardiff. Then there's a couple of youngsters in Macs Page, Hennessey and Ackerman who look like top prospects. Edit. there's also Hawkins who looks like he's be available again soon, though another who needs to regroup after his horror move to Exeter! Edit edit, there's also Johnny Williams who would do a job now with his physicality.

Don't forget Beard